Their really are not any great opportunities as far as private schools, and though she has asked me before, I do not think homeschooling will end up happening with work and all.

This paper says SAT-V > 630 places her in > 99.99% group.

http://carrefoursagesse.wordpress.com/2009/02/18/the-cognitive-profile-of-the-precocious-student/

And:

"Finally, an interesting trend was revealed. The presence of exceptionally high verbal ability appeared to increase the likelihood of the presence of high mathematical ability."

She may not have had the exposure to mathematically intermediate topics that would allow her to perform at a much higher level. Most math knowledge is not readily available like good books are. Most people get their math via school and not via self-study and ability at math is suppressed in girls due to social pressures. I imagine most kids who > 700 on the SAT-M have had the full two years of Algebra, another of geometry, another of analytical geometry/pre-calc - or at least a good exposure to all the above.

In addition, if she is not in a Latin program or has not had exposure to classic English lit, then that would retard her scores on the SAT-V.

All in all, very impressive.

Right now her education sounds random rather than focused, but she wants more. I think that is a good sign.

She probably flies through her regular homework as if she was born knowing it.

Why not home school after school? Pick a subject, get the curriculum, then have her work through it. If she can handle that, then add another.

( She may be able to sneak her books into class and work on that while the rest of the class does their thing as I was able to. )

Austin, your article is from before the 1995 re-centering. I thought the norms looked a bit "too high to be true" there! (I'm not saying the scores aren't still quite high, but I had to check it out for my own kid's scores!)

~ Dottie, who really wishes they'd do more studies with the current test, including some on 9 year olds, .

Thanks. What did the recentering do and what was the effect?

Well, the whole thing was revamped, and you'll read any number of opinions on that. The verbal part no longer has analogies for example. Some consider this part of a "dumbing down", but I read an article that assures that's not the case. I have my own suspicions though just based on the fact that it was normed on a more elite group 20 years ago, than it is today. "College bound" these days is probably what...the top 80%? The norms are MUCH higher than those for our state test (11th grade) for example, but I would still be more impressed with a 90th percentile on the SAT then than now, .

For scoring, the math changed less dramatically than the verbal. Apparently it was more "centered" over the years. The mean of the verbal part at one point though was down in the low 400's (goal 500). So those scores changed significantly. While the math scoring is similar, the verbal scores really can't be outright compared.

Here's an interesting link comparing scores...

Scores then and now

And for the truly curious and/or bored..

Article on renorming

Still though, you are basically talking about two different tests. Shhhh, don't tell my admins, as they were majorly impressed with DS's scores, .

What The Great Renorming Event boils down to for those of us with kids testing today, is a huge lack of information on what exactly defines these precocious levels. Add to that the fact that most high school kids take it more than once, and prep courses abound, and all bets are off, . I recommend anyone that tests on this learn how to use the data to your kid's advantage, .

Oh, and for 7th/8th graders testing today, these are probably the most useful numbers as far as gauging levels...

Recent TIP data on 7th graders

CTY has norms for 8th as well, but I don't believe they are online.

For Bassetlover's kiddo, the TIP percentiles follow (compared to talented 7th graders)

610 critical reading 98th percentile
660 math 99th percentile
650 in writing 99th percentile

Again, those are percentiles compared to kids already within the top 5% . Very impressive indeed!

Did they renorm the ACT, GRE, GMAT and the PSAT as well?

That's a big change on the SAT, especially at the higher end. I took the SAT twice before renorming but my scores did not change much. I would have 800s today. Sort of puts things in perspective when I hear about perfect SATs today.

Sorry, I only become "expert" after my own kids take a test. DD did take the ACT, but I wasn't nearly as interested in that. I'm pretty clueless about the ACT, GRE, GMAT and PSAT, though they still claim that the PSAT aligns with the SAT.

Today the 800's seem to be more about perfection than open ended challenge. Don't get me wrong, those are fantastic scores, but you are right, they are not nearly as rare as they were back then.

I know that the GRE has changed in the last year (similar changes as the SAT) and that the MCAT changed dramatically. I wonder if those changes were to raise scores as well...