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Math MAP score for 7th grade daughter=270
Reading MAP score for 7th grade daughter=250
Science scores= 241,240.
What percentile, grade level, etc, are these scores. Also, I think they have been called RIT scores. I'm not sure about that, though.

According to the 2008 Status norms (RIT Values) -

Math - 270 is not even listed as a mean or median through grade 11.
Reading - 250 also not even listed as a mean or median through grade 11.
Science - both scores way off the 2008 norms, not listed through grade 11

I also have "2005 Placement Guidelines" - Spring

For grade 7 -

Math -
Gifted- 255

Reading -
Gifted - 239

I also have 2008 "Comparative Data to Inform Instruction Decisions" - showing higher achievement, NWEA Median, and lower achievement


Math -249 as higher achievement
Reading -236 as higher achievement
General Science -225 as higher achievement
Science Concepts and Processes - 224 as higher achievement


Very impressive scores!

Ditto! I looked up her percentiles using the 2008 Norms here:

http://pickens.it.schoolfusion.us/m...ssionid=14d1e9266e4482d198ebc39c6e6bc9c3

Using the table on page 131, her reading 249 RIT puts her at the 98% of 11th graders.
Using the table on page 143, her math RIT of 270 puts her at the 97% of 11th graders.
Using the table on page 149, her science RIT of 241 puts her at the 99% of 10th graders (they don't have any 11th grade data).

Thanks Inky for the great link!

Thanks, too. I need to a bit of math advocacy and the entire report was helpful.

You're welcome and I'm glad it's helping others. I consider this the silver lining in the cloud of frustration I experienced last fall. That's when I was given inaccurate Norms for DD6's MAP test as justification for not including her in the gifted pullout.

Good luck with your advocacy. It's good to know this information can help shed light on the progress of students who are well above or below grade level. This is effectively invisible under testing systems that are limited to grade level.

She retook the MAP Reading today. She got a 255 on it for the End of Year assessment.

Woohoo! I'm glad to see more high growth.
Is there anything special that the school is doing to support this or does it seem to be driven more by external factors?

Theres not really anything going on. We come from a HIGHLY prestigious district. (3-4 people in her grade hit above 2000 on the SAT, and 2 scored above 2200. And actually, she feels that her scores are bad, but I want to reassure her that all those kids took prep classes) She was among a good three or four (or more) kids who scored above 250. (although 255 was the highest she had heard). According to her, the teacher just looked at her, gave her the "WOW! thats reaallly good" thing and it was over. So, no, they aren't supplementing anything.

Too bad they're not cluster grouping with compacting and differentiating opportunities for these kids. Sigh...

Oh, and now she got a 276 on the math section. Do you have any percentiles for the math/reading new scores?? (we get science scores monday or tuesday)

More high growth and she's still moving up the above grade level percentiles.
The 276 math RIT is at the 98% for End of School year 11th graders (274 RIT). A 277 would have put her at the 99%.

The 255 Reading is 3 points above the 99% for End of School year 11th graders (252).

This came from pages 133 & 145 of the Norms Study.
http://pickens.it.schoolfusion.us/m...ssionid=14d1e9266e4482d198ebc39c6e6bc9c3

The thing that really impresses me is when you compare her growth with the growth estimates on pages 95 & 58. I had to look at 10th grade charts for her starting RIT. For math, the growth estimate is 0.21 from beginning of the year to the end of year (32 weeks) compared to her growth of 6 in ~10 weeks. The reading is impressive too since the growth estimate is actually negative (-1.89 for 32 weeks) compared to her positive 5 point growth in ~10 weeks.

P.S. Your daughter seems to prove this point in the Hoagie's article about testing:
http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/tests_tell_us.htm

The science went down by a point. This time she had 239 and 241. Which leads me to believe that she might not be learning anything new? (and what she knows might be from the "Chemistry for Dummies" book she read voluntarily about a year ago?[she's really into the dummies series])

My son is in the third grade. He is the all-time highest score for Colorado. Im so proud of him.
Reading: 262
Language Usage: 254
Math: 293

Our math director for our district is using him as a guinea-pig. She is currently taking him out of class once daily to further his math knowledge. Right now they are working on trigonometry. He probably knows more than I do in math. All of his teachers want him to skip multiple grades. I don't like it due to him being small and stuck in with a lot larger students. His principal recommends that we switch to a special online school. A gifted specialist drove in from Denver to work with him. He said that his current knowledge and adaptability is about equal to that of a College Student in their 3rd or 4th year. What do you think i should do? Should I bump him up a grade? Or go to online school?

I think you should ask yourself if they are reasonably going to be doing college level work in the fourth grade classroom, and make your decision from there. And remember,there are lots of places besides school for him to interact with other kids his age.