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    #248162 - 03/03/21 08:47 AM Re: Giftedness, 2e and executive functions [Re: Klangedin]
    indigo Offline

    Registered: 04/27/13
    Posts: 4519
    Klangedin - I think that the potential advantages of creativity and thinking outside the box, and being inflexibly persistent (which have been mentioned upthread), can be a considerable benefit.

    Combined with the advantage of high IQ (which would tend to indicate that it would be possible to learn and/or develop strategies to "tame" the creative gifts and persistence as needed) provides a strength, not a weakness.

    It is possible that exhibiting a child-like creativity and persistence may draw others to you. People can be exhausting, especially if they may tend to regard you as a "resource" due to your creativity/persistence, tapping you as needed, and not accepting you as a whole person. That may leave you feeling vulnerable, and not valued, respected, or protected by these people... in a word, "used."

    You don't need to answer this, but have you reflected on what makes social interaction, or particular social interactions, exhausting? For example, are conversations with some people difficult to process in real-time and respond to? Does it take quiet time later, to review the conversation in your mind to determine whether the words, tone, facial expression, and body language were in agreement with each other and indicated sincerity? Or whether a person may have been smarmy and attempting to manipulate you or others?

    It may take a while to "sift" through various social situations and/or seek out social situations in which you may find people who are genuine, interested, accepting, and supportive, if that is what you are seeking.

    For example, some people may enjoy having a broad base of acquaintances or contacts, and relationships which are not in depth, but can serve to help open doors and make connections. Others may prefer knowing just a few close friends. Some may screen people based on values such as ethics, integrity, humanitarianism, truth, and sincerity. Others may prefer to be in the company of movers and shakers, powerful people, and those with money who can further their projects and goals. Note that these groups are not mutually exclusive, and a combination of traits can exist in all people.

    Use your intellect to create healthy interpersonal boundaries, and develop a good BS filter. Trust your gut. Value yourself, and your creativity, persistence, and other traits. Don't let people take advantage of you.

    Just my 2 cents.

    #248166 - 03/03/21 09:41 PM Re: Giftedness, 2e and executive functions [Re: Klangedin]
    Klangedin Offline
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    Registered: 10/24/13
    Posts: 20
    I tend to think of executive profiles as a preference for being..

    -Impulsivity could be spontaneity
    -Poor working memory could be quick reactions/decision making
    -Inflexibility could be a dogged attitude, persistence.

    However there are preferences to be found in any occupation that might not suite someone who has these characteristics and vice versa..

    And to add to your analysis I've been known to keep doing a few things for a very long time, never changing, never stopping.. This could be a benefit if something requires a long time to develop, however as someone said "Where the grind meets the stone" there aren't many benefits of being too low in flexibility considering that you need to be able to socialize and being average seems a good start of point..

    Can you consider someone being high in executive functions?
    -High impulse control = XYZ
    -High working memory = XYZ
    -High flexibility = XYZ

    And question, can you increase these three basic executive functions? I know that exercise improves inhibition and the ability to resist distraction if you do it long enough!

    #248167 - 03/04/21 06:50 PM Re: Giftedness, 2e and executive functions [Re: Klangedin]
    indigo Offline

    Registered: 04/27/13
    Posts: 4519
    Yes, many characteristics can be associated with both positive and negative behaviors.
    This may be seen IRL on resumes and annual performance reviews.
    Thinking along those lines, here is a list of "gifted" PROs and CONs which may be of interest:
    See the chart "Characteristics of Gifted" on page 6 of this 20-page PDF, created by
    Ohio Association for Gifted Children (OAGC) Handbook, May 15, 2020
    (also on WayBack Machine, internet archive -*/

    Yes, most people can change most characteristics to some degree.
    One place to begin a search for information may be Understood. org.
    You can search for "executive function" or many other terms.
    There is also a Young Adult page, which may provide a starting point:

    #248168 - 03/05/21 03:01 AM Re: Giftedness, 2e and executive functions [Re: Klangedin]
    LazyMum Offline

    Registered: 06/09/15
    Posts: 119
    Originally Posted By: Klangedin
    Mostly its problems with fatigue.. I can handle doing everything from cleaning to cooking but socializing is exhausting..
    ... and I'm dont think im always a pleasent person to be around..

    Just in case no one ever told you this: you don't have to be a social person. There's nothing wrong with being an introvert, having awkward social skills, not enjoying social situations, etc. If you don't like all that stuff then avoid it!! You're only here once - do whatever makes you happy. If that includes spending most of your time by yourself, then go for it! I spend most of my day alone, and it suits me just fine smile

    Edited by LazyMum (03/05/21 03:04 AM)

    #248169 - 03/05/21 04:28 AM Re: Giftedness, 2e and executive functions [Re: Klangedin]
    Klangedin Offline
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    Registered: 10/24/13
    Posts: 20

    I used to be more outgoing before my disease.. Now it's a lot of time alone, but I kind of like it smile

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