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    #247615 - 09/30/20 01:18 AM How to score similarities section on WISC
    LazyMum Offline
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    Hi folks. Apparently, when asked to name a similarity between horses and cows, DD said "they both can lick boogers out of their noses with their tongues", which is incorrect because horses generally can't lick their nostrils. Would the marker care? Does the answer have to be factually true? I have a feeling DD may have answered more than one question in this way, trying to make her teacher laugh...

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    #247617 - 09/30/20 05:02 AM Re: How to score similarities section on WISC [Re: LazyMum]
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    It is my understanding that a properly trained evaluator would say something like "tell me another way they are the same." I'm pretty sure that the answer has to be on the list to be marked as right.

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    #247618 - 09/30/20 06:36 AM Re: How to score similarities section on WISC [Re: LazyMum]
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    Ahh, that's interesting. Thanks Kai!

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    #247619 - 09/30/20 11:14 AM Re: How to score similarities section on WISC [Re: Kai]
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    Yes. Although if it actually is factually correct but not on the list, it's still clinically interesting.
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    #247621 - 09/30/20 11:52 AM Re: How to score similarities section on WISC [Re: LazyMum]
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    When I took an IQ test at... 9? (a very, very long time ago) the first similarities questions was on apples vs peaches (or maybe apricots). After a string of steadily more complicated answers and more "tell me another way they are the same" from the increasingly frustrated evaluator she finally broke down (after "both come from flowers with 5 petals and 5 sepals", IIRC) and told me "fruits! they are both fruits!!!".

    I was flabbergasted (although I tried not to betray my scorn) at how stupid the questions/answers were for what had been pitched to me as a test to see if I was smart "enough".

    The rest of the testing proceeded smoothly enough, once expectations on both sides had been properly recalibrated.


    Edited by SiaSL (09/30/20 10:59 PM)

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    #247622 - 09/30/20 06:00 PM Re: How to score similarities section on WISC [Re: SiaSL]
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    I usually preface by explaining that some items may be easier, and some may be harder, and that both of those are normal experiences.

    Also, Sia, FWIW your evaluator should have given the teaching cue for the first item after just one or two queries, instead of querying to the extent that she showed frustration. I've had the same experience of too much specificity and complexity at the same time on this type of task--from postdoctoral fellows.
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    #247623 - 09/30/20 07:52 PM Re: How to score similarities section on WISC [Re: LazyMum]
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    I was allowed to sit in during one of my children's earlier IQ tests. The first question they were asked is "What is a sock", to which they answered "Something for your foot", delivered with quite a lot of personality and eliciting a chortle from the psychologist. My child then proceeded to try to use the same format for every answer, which became more and more inappropriate. I was quite appalled at how long this was allowed to go on for, and that the psychologist seemed unaware that it was her own initial response that had lead my child to answering for entertainment value (especially in the face of such boring questions).

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    #247624 - 09/30/20 10:58 PM Re: How to score similarities section on WISC [Re: aeh]
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    Originally Posted By: aeh
    FWIW your evaluator should have given the teaching cue for the first item after just one or two queries, instead of querying to the extent that she showed frustration.


    It might not have gone on *that* long. I was around 9, a perfectionist, and took not being able to answer the question very personally laugh. The evaluator (a school psychologist) wasn't exactly upset, more like she wanted to help but couldn't... until she broke down.

    Looking back it was fairly hilarious (even though I didn't think so at the time -- I was a pretty serious child).

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    #247625 - 10/01/20 06:38 AM Re: How to score similarities section on WISC [Re: SiaSL]
    Eagle Mum Offline
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    Registered: 02/24/20
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    Loc: Australia
    My sympathies. I am not a professional in this field, but a correct answer should be scored as such. An individual taking a test shouldn’t have to second guess the test creator’s expectations. The questions should have gone through a more rigorous quality control process.

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    #247626 - 10/01/20 09:50 AM Re: How to score similarities section on WISC [Re: LazyMum]
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    This is what makes aeh's job fascinating, isn't it? You can learn so much more about the child than just whether they know what a sock is laugh

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