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    #245735 - 06/24/19 03:32 AM Does this look a 2e profile?
    sh77 Offline
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    Registered: 06/17/19
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    My son is 8 and was recently evaluated by an Ed Psych as I felt he was bright but not reaching his potential. The assessment confirmed a spiky profile and low processing. I would be very grateful for opinions on his scores and whether this looks like a 2e profile? He was assessed using the WASI 2, WRAT 4, and British Ability Scales 3.

    His block design was very discrepant and I'll take him t an OT for further assessment.

    WASI 2:
    Block design: Centile 9; T score 40; Age <6.2
    Vocabulary: Centile 98; T score 66; Age 11.2
    Matrix reasoning: Centile 86; T score 58; Age 10.6
    Similarities: Centile 98; T score 65; Age 11.2
    VCI 124 95% Superior
    PRI 98 45% Average

    An FSIQ was not given due to high variation in scores.

    WRAT 4:
    Maths computation: Centile 98; standardised score 130 (upper extreme)
    Spelling: Centile 91; standardised score 120; category superior.

    BAS 3

    Speed of informational processing: Centile 16; T score 40; Age 6.1
    Recall of digits forward: Centile 50; T score 50; Age 8.3
    Recall of objects immediate verbal: centile 69; T score 55; age 9.3.

    Many thanks.

    #245762 - 06/27/19 10:39 PM Re: Does this look a 2e profile? [Re: sh77]
    Portia Offline

    Registered: 03/17/13
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    Hello sh77,

    Welcome to the boards! I apologize that I am just seeing your post. Sometimes there is a delay for new posters and then the post gets lost in the thread.

    We have a frequent poster, aeh, who is incredibly generous with time and knowledge. I will defer specific responses to him.

    From an overall view, large separations can be an indication of asynchrony in development. It is good an OT is going to do a further evaluation of the block design. Block design could also indicate a visual processing difficulty, which an OT may not pick up. How is his handwriting? Does he like to play with things like Legos and puzzles? How is his artwork? How are his fine motor skills?

    What concerns are you seeing which prompted the Ed Psych evaluation? Sometimes the testing just gives a snapshot, but when you combine that with information from the home and school environment, context helps with interpretations.

    #245798 - 07/01/19 05:26 PM Re: Does this look a 2e profile? [Re: sh77]
    aeh Offline

    Registered: 04/26/14
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    Welcome! My apologies for the delay; I've been on limited internet.

    Your DC's cognitive profile does have some consistencies suggesting slow processing speed in general, possibly specifically fine-motor speed, and I do agree with following up with an OT. The two measures of working memory are average, which most likely is an unremarkable finding (unless you have IRL data that would suggest otherwise). While some individuals with above average cognition have working memory to match, many do not.

    At the moment, the two screening measures of academic achievement are consistent with best estimates of his cognition, but are limited in scope. What caused you to wonder about underachievement?

    #245918 - 08/18/19 12:02 PM Re: Does this look a 2e profile? [Re: sh77]
    Anisotropic Offline
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    Registered: 12/09/18
    Posts: 15
    Are you sure those numbers are all correct? The T-scores and percentiles don't seem to match up for the WASI.
    "The thing that doesn't fit is the most interesting."
    -Richard Feynman

    #245919 - 08/18/19 07:25 PM Re: Does this look a 2e profile? [Re: Anisotropic]
    aeh Offline

    Registered: 04/26/14
    Posts: 3463
    Nice catch, Anisotropic! Even so, the profile is still worth investigating, whether the %iles or the T scores are the actual numbers. Also note that the UK norms appear to be slightly less consistent with the US norms between the WISC and the WASI, especially at the younger ages.


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