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    Hello. This is my first post and I am seeking help understanding the administration and scoring of the RIAS-2. Specifically, how does the subject's AGE drive the delivery and scoring?
    Do testers begin each subtest at a specific and/or pre-determined point according to age? Are the resulting scores then compared to same-aged groups' scores? How narrow are the groups/bands in the elementary years?
    I have learned that this a brief test (by design) and therefore suspends questioning quickly. So, where the test begins would seem to me to be a key factor in scoring results, if the questions are sequentially more difficult.

    Thank you kindly for sharing your expertise on this test! I searched for info about RIAS-2, but found mostly info regarding the original RIAS edition.

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    An interested parent,


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    Welcome!

    Yes, the subject's age drives both delivery and scoring on the RIAS-2 and most other individually-administered cognitive assessment instruments. There are different suggested start points based on the age of the examinee. The youngest children start at the first item, while the oldest learners start several items in. The assumption is that if you meet the basal criterion (a certain number of items correct in a row) at or below your age-determined start point, that all unadministered items below that would have been correct. Similarly, one continues administering items until a ceiling is reached (a certain number of items incorrect in a row), where the assumption is that administering all remaining items would not result in additional correct responses (or even if there were stragglers, it would have an insignificant effect on overall estimates of ability).

    The resulting raw scores (which include credit for all items below the basal, and none for items above the ceiling) are then compared to age-matched peers in the standardization group (the age norms). Age bands generally change across the developmental spectrum, especially for a test like this one, that spans preschool through old age. In the younger ages, the bands will be smaller, often three to four months for school-age children, while in the oldest ages, the bands may be 10 or 20 years wide.


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    Thank you for your explanation, aeh!
    Our child's age was overstated by twelve months. In your opinion, should the test be repeated, or could the current raw scores be compared to the younger peer group to arrive at a final score? It will depend I suppose on the width of the bands at ages 10/11. I welcome your thoughts on this situation.
    Thanks again!

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    The current raw scores likely can be re-converted to T/standard scores using the correct norms. The situation in which they might be overestimates is if the student has errors soon after the start point that suggest that they might have had a lower basal, with additional errors, if they had been started earlier overall, at their true age-based start point. Though I see now that you gave the approximate ages--I don't recall off hand for the RIAS-2, but typically those ages have the same start points on the majority of tests of this kind. So that probably won't be an issue.

    You definitely cannot repeat the test, unless it has been 24 months since the previous administration. That would invalidate the second result.

    Just have the raw scores re-converted to standard scores, using the correct age norms. I am assuming this is a child of at least average ability, so the basal issue that might or might not occur is very unlikely to affect results.


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    Thank you again, aeh. This information is helpful. We will request a meeting with the school psychologist. Our child's test results were above average with the overstated age, so perhaps a raw score re-conversion will suffice. Thanks for your feedback!


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