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    #240231 10/25/17 06:32 PM
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    !!!!!!

    Al-gebra anyone? An arabic word, used to work an arabic number system, to explore concepts mostly developed in Egypt (Alexandria)?

    Greek science we only know because while Christianity spent centuries busily burning every book that wasn't the bible, Muslim societies preserved that ancient knowledge for us and passed it back when we stopped being so destructive?

    Seriously, we've got enough real problems with discrimination in the classroom, we don't need people spouting this kind of nonsense in public.


    ETA: Pardon my grumpiness, hit me where it hurts as we are dealing with some seriously nonsense proposals to fix access/ equity issues by taking everything away from everybody to make us all equal. 100 page report sounded a heck of a lot like that article.

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    madeinuk #240240 10/26/17 06:18 AM
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    Basically, she's saying she has earned her math professorship with almost no exposure to math history, so she decided to hook her ignorance to a flagpole and hoist it high.

    Re: Greek science preservation - your point is valid, though Eastern and Western Christians deserve some credit, too. http://www.economist.com/node/17722535

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    Technically a math education professorship smile

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    This is part of the reason why we have the current occupant in the White House.

    Platypus101 #240243 10/26/17 08:19 AM
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    Originally Posted by Platypus101
    Greek science we only know because while Christianity spent centuries busily burning every book that wasn't the bible, Muslim societies preserved that ancient knowledge for us and passed it back when we stopped being so destructive?

    You're going to need to be more specific in your culture/civilization time-frame in order for me to offer meaningful commentary here. Just give me the nearest century, and I'm good.


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    Originally Posted by Platypus101
    !!!!!!

    Al-gebra anyone? An arabic word, used to work an arabic number system, to explore concepts mostly developed in Egypt (Alexandria)?

    Greek science we only know because while Christianity spent centuries busily burning every book that wasn't the bible, Muslim societies preserved that ancient knowledge for us and passed it back when we stopped being so destructive?

    Actually 'Arabic Numbers' are Indian in origin.

    No, Roman Catholics refused to accept knowledge that the Eastern churches kept intact which spread to the West largely after the rampaging Turks (Muslim) conquered Constantinople renaming it Istanbul. Constantinople was basically the Eastern Roman Empire which kept 'Classical Knowledge' very much alive.

    But I digress...


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    madeinuk #240247 10/26/17 11:39 AM
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    Originally Posted by madeinuk
    No, Roman Catholics refused to accept knowledge that the Eastern churches kept intact which spread to the West largely after the rampaging Turks (Muslim) conquered Constantinople renaming it Istanbul.

    Only after crusaders decided to dismember Constantinople in the first place, which effectively marked the beginning of end of the Roman Empire. The "rampaging Turks" conquered a corpse.

    Which is why we need to have dates to discuss this. Otherwise, we are talking past each other.

    Which is not necessarily bad or unusual for this board.

    madeinuk #240248 10/26/17 12:07 PM
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    So much fun can be had unpacking the language here, because when Europeans lay waste to strangers for religion and theft it's called "crusading," but when Arabs do the same thing in the same place, they're "rampaging."

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    Originally Posted by Dude
    So much fun can be had unpacking the language here, because when Europeans lay waste to strangers for religion and theft it's called "crusading," but when Arabs do the same thing in the same place, they're "rampaging."

    The crusaders rampaged Jerusalem in 1099.

    By the time the crusaders decided to disembowel Constantinople, they weren't really strangers.

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