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    #239666 - 09/13/17 04:36 AM Re: Special interest or gifted trait? [Re: Eskes]
    polarbear Offline

    Registered: 09/29/11
    Posts: 3344
    Originally Posted By: Eskes
    During that same time he had started staying in the classroom instead of going to recess and he has continued to not make friends or socially interact at school with children.

    Eskes, does your ds' have any kind of social skills training or goals in his IEP (if he has an IEP)? Does he have support for social skills at school or is the school staff working with him to help him with social skills? Is staying inside during recess his choice or the school's choice? Is he still staying inside during recess?

    I realize I'm only seeing a snippet of the full situation in a post here, but the first thought that crosses my mind is that not participating in recess is going to add to social isolation among an elementary school group rather than help a child who is having difficulty forming connections with classroom peers. On the other hand, there are many things that could be actively done by school staff to support your ds in forming connection with his classmates. It's possible he's in a situation where he's so far beyond the curriculum etc that he needs a different academic fit, but if the social isolation is due to a different challenge, it's important that helping provide support and a chance to practice social skills at school can be invaluable.

    Best wishes,


    #239684 - 09/13/17 09:06 PM Re: Special interest or gifted trait? [Re: Eskes]
    Eskes Offline

    Registered: 05/05/17
    Posts: 51
    Thanks Polar bear. DS does have 504 that we got last year. The school said he did not qualify for an IEP because his issues did not impact his academics. They did have him go to a social group once per week during lunch. The school counselor said he was like an expert in the social skills group. However, the group was during recess and after the educational piece the other children chose to go to recess and he stayed by himself with the counselor playing games or puzzles. He knows the social skills but still not applying it with peers or interacting with others on the playground. I am not sure what will happen this year yet. He is a very sweet and quiet child. The school is great but I don't think they see the need to help him since he does not cause problems. They have lots of children who need more support.

    #240320 - 11/01/17 01:31 PM Re: Special interest or gifted trait? [Re: Eskes]
    Shift Offline
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    Registered: 01/15/11
    Posts: 7
    Also, as some others have pointed out, if you're on the spectrum and gifted, the profile may have more features of a typical gifted child and perhaps fewer classic autistic traits. For instance, I am autistic, but I had a well-developed understanding and frequent use of sarcasm and idiomatic language by the time I was eight, a bit earlier than many of my neurotypical peers. I also didn't relate to the "distraction from internal source" point. Disruption of attention has nearly always been due to external sensory factors (or more accurately, my oversensitized perception of them), such as loud noises or lots of movement, such as in a crowded lobby or classroom.

    I was also keenly aware of how different I was from the time I began going to school. While I could have a relatively sophisticated understanding of social dynamics when considered from a quiet, low-distraction room, with the enormous amount of sensory bombardment of real social situations, I couldn't apply it. I was too busy processing basic sensory input like what words mean, trying to filter background noise, and trying to formulate words and detect a lull in the conversation so I could participate as well, so I couldn't stop and analyze social dynamics in the moment on top of that. To even think about what someone else might be thinking was sometimes just too much for me to do, even if it would be obvious in a quiet room with the time to go through it step by step, as an observer.

    Actual practice with the social skills will be key. You can't improve something you don't practice, after all, even if it's tempting to avoid due to social feedback (social skills difficulty is tricky that way).

    #240323 - 11/02/17 11:52 AM Re: Special interest or gifted trait? [Re: Eskes]
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    Registered: 12/05/16
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    My son is autistic. He has a medical diagnosis, and gets ABA therapy at home. He is high functioning, so people that meet him don't think "autistic", they think "shy". The therapist is working through the book now called Social Rules for Kids-The Top 100 Social Rules Kids Need to Succeed. It's an awesome book, and it's designed for kids age 8-14. It gives him lots of chances to practice his social skills. And if I look into his future, I can definitely see him as an engineer. Super good at math, a little socially awkward. But it's important to be able to communicate with other people, and to also relate to them socially. I'm hoping that the ABA therapy will really help him have less anxiety socially because all of those skills will be more practiced.

    #240342 - 11/03/17 01:28 PM Re: Special interest or gifted trait? [Re: Shift]
    Eskes Offline

    Registered: 05/05/17
    Posts: 51
    Thank you Shift for sharing. My DS also uses sarcasm frequently and understands humor more than his older sibling. Your input is helpful in understanding what may be happening to him in social settings. He is not able to articulate what is going on but hides in his coat with hood at the playground or other areas where there is a lot of peers/noise. My guess is he is having a sensory overload but can not verbalize it.

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