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    #239662 - 09/12/17 06:39 PM Language considerations for IQ testing
    DianaG Offline

    Registered: 08/15/15
    Posts: 82
    I've asked in the past about this subject, but we ended up not moving so the testing never happened. The kids are bigger now, so I'm looking for advice.

    We have found a gifted school we are considering for our children. We will be moving to the area from abroad.

    We are considering IQ testing, and that would remain valid for two years.

    For the older child, we're able to get him an WISC-V.

    For the younger child, can you please comment on our testing options? He will not be old enough for a WISC.
    - SB5
    - IQ test in second language

    Can you provide any advice or recommendations on the choice of test? Once the school year settles down, I will confirm with the school that our preferred test is acceptable for their admission, but I'd like to go in knowing which test is better.

    Any information and advice is welcome. Obviously, an accurate picture of our children would be ideal, but a number higher enough for acceptance, even if it is an underestimate, is the goal.

    Edited by DianaG (09/20/17 06:02 PM)

    #239664 - 09/12/17 07:13 PM Re: Language considerations for IQ testing [Re: DianaG]
    aeh Offline

    Registered: 04/26/14
    Posts: 3038
    In terms of accuracy, on general principle, I would say that the most accurate (and likely highest) number would be obtained from the English SB5 (assuming English is his stronger language).

    The English WPPSI-III would likely be the next preferred instrument, as ceiling issues, while always a real concern for very high functioning learners, are not as concerning to me in this case, as the age range of the instrument goes up to 7-3.

    A brief internet search finds that the (test in second language) is viewed as better for discriminating intelligence at the lowest end of the curve than other instruments, and not preferred for discriminating above IQ 120. It does have the advantage that it is less verbally-loaded, and might not have as much of a penalty for testing in the weaker language.

    Edited by aeh (09/21/17 04:12 AM)
    Edit Reason: OP privacy

    #239683 - 09/13/17 08:23 PM Re: Language considerations for IQ testing [Re: DianaG]
    DianaG Offline

    Registered: 08/15/15
    Posts: 82
    Aeh, thank you for that overview. It's very helpful. You're a real asset here.

    #239689 - 09/15/17 11:43 AM Re: Language considerations for IQ testing [Re: DianaG]
    Tigerle Offline

    Registered: 07/29/14
    Posts: 561
    Loc: Europe
    Not an expert on testing, but on freaky family logistics...

    You say that testing remains valid for two years and I know that is the standard in the profession, but is it the schools policy? I'd make sure to get that in writing, together with the tests they will accept. And try to find out what will happen if you have to defer admission and the school changes their policy for some reason - will they be grandfathered in in case they have already been admitted? And what if they haven't, because you never got that far in the process?

    I'm asking because it happened to us, and you have to go to much more trouble to get these results, so they better work for you when you need them to. (If the school is anyway like our public gifted magnet, the answer to all these question from frazzled mom may be "umm...". In the end, I told DS to just suck it up and take the (suddenly exclusively acceptable) group test at the publicly designated testing center, and bloody well make sure he passed the threshold, so no one else would be required to use their brains).

    If you have as much confirmation as you can get that a 2 year old WPPSI will work, you could arrange for testing right away and get it over with.

    All of this depending of course how much hassle the trip would be. Good luck with figuring it all out!

    Edited by Tigerle (09/21/17 02:03 AM)

    #239768 - 09/20/17 06:00 PM Re: Language considerations for IQ testing [Re: DianaG]
    DianaG Offline

    Registered: 08/15/15
    Posts: 82
    Thanks, Tigerle, for the reminder to get everything arranged in advance with the school. Waiting for the school year to settle in, and then we'll start making plans.

    It's a hassle, but you're right, with the luxury of time, the hassle can be managed.

    Editing out the original post now for privacy.

    #239769 - 09/21/17 02:04 AM Re: Language considerations for IQ testing [Re: DianaG]
    Tigerle Offline

    Registered: 07/29/14
    Posts: 561
    Loc: Europe
    I have edited my answer following your lead. Please let me know if there is anything else you'd like removed.


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