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    So I spoke with someone else at the school about my dd today and was told they have never allowed a child into the program who did not meet the specific criteria of the rubric no matter what other attributes the child possess, that the appeals is used more if there is a testing error. So in researching today I came across an article that states:

    "Dr. Linda Silverman also highly recommends the use of tests with higher ceilings to reduce ceiling effects. The situation occurs when a student obtains one or more subtest scores at the 99th percentile; then the composite score is actually well below the student's capabilities"

    On the Inview test my dd did get a 99 in one of the subtest, so is it fair to argue her results are not accurate? The article goes on to say:

    "The major problem encountered in assessing the gifted is ceiling effects. Most people are unaware of the extent to which low test ceilings can depress IQ scores in the gifted range."

    I feel that is a valid point on why her score is invalid and likely much higher than what is represented on her report.

    Anyone have luck with proving the ceiling effect did impact their child's score or any articles to share on this that may help?

    We are meeting on Tuesday, but I truly feel unless I can get them to accept her score may be inaccurate we are stuck for the next two years until they retest the kids. I was feeling very defeated after our phone call this morning, but finding this information has given me a little silver lining.

    On a side note I am horrified by how little the people we are speaking with know about the test they are giving. Nobody has yet to be able to tell me why her CSI score is lower that what would be typical of a score in the 98th percentile. One answer was the sections must be weighted differently which is lowering the score another said they would have to read through the book and get back to me. I think they should be well informed on the test they are using. frown

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    Which tests did she take?

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    Sorry, She took the InView Terra Nova test. Her overall was in the 98th percentile her CSI was a 126.

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    Hopefully aeh might be able to share some insight on this?

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    Originally Posted by indigo
    Hopefully aeh might be able to share some insight on this?

    aeh has been very helpful already. I wouldn't even know why my dd's CSI scores were lower than what I would have thought a 98th percentile would have. I am very appreciative for all of the information I have been able to get here. It has been very helpful. Navigating this process is very difficult, especially when the people we are dealing with seem to know so little about the testing.

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    Will your school/board accept outside testing?

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    No they won't.

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    Originally Posted by sigep1233
    aeh has been very helpful already.
    Yes, the forums are very fortunate to have aeh... and other wonderful BTDT posters. smile Polarbear and Portia especially come to mind.

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    I still haven't found much info on how much it impacts scores.

    I emailed the Principal a few questions so hopefully he'll get back to me before the meeting.

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    Originally Posted by sigep1233
    I emailed the Principal a few questions so hopefully he'll get back to me before the meeting.
    Did you request a reply prior to the meeting date... possibly including words which may indicate a benefit to the principal and school team, such as, "In order to make the best use of everyone's time at the meeting..."?

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