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    I do think that school districts can't deny services just because a child isn't failing

    blackcat, just wanted to share with you that this is the exact same line being given to my friends with 2E kids. I don't know if it's legal. It doesn't SOUND legal, But that is also what they have been told. He/she is not failing...get out of my office. frown

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    My other kid had an IEP written and he definitely wasn't failing. His lowest score on the WJ-Ach. was in the 80th percentile. The difference was that they had to get a POHI teacher involved in his evaluation (it's a state requirement) and the teacher they found was contracted and she was one of the contributers to the State manual for evaluating other health disabilities. She probably told the district they needed to qualify him. I initially was given the same runaround with him, they refused to even evaluate him, told me he would never qualify for anything, etc. I talked to a free legal group for people with disabilities and the woman told me my district is terrible.

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    Pohi?

    Ohi is other health impaired right? What is pohi?

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    I'm sorry this is happening. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the second school at which this is occurring... did your kids change schools prior to this school year?

    Have you looked into the Wrightslaw website and the book From Emotions To Advocacy? There is also a website specifically to support the book - fetaweb.com.

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    Originally Posted by blackcat
    Thanks bluemagic, sorry you are dealing with this too. Since DD is only in 4th grade most of the writing has to be done in school. She just ends up zoning out there and looks really unfocused. Then as teachers berate her for not doing the work, she gets more and more unfocused and anxious (but it doesn't necessarily show up as anxiety--it's not obvious). She ends up looking passive aggressive which makes everyone more frustrated with her because it looks like she's not even trying and doesn't care. I don't even know how to fix this situation with a 504. It's not like a regular classroom teacher is going to be able to give her a pep talk and coach her about what to write every time she needs to write something in class.
    To be honest I feel stupid because if you look back this has been happening to my son for years but I didn't really realize how bad it was till last year in 9th grade. DS had major problems in 6th grade with anxiety and meltdowns and one of the triggers was writing assignments like this.

    The problem we had in identifying this as a learning disability (we didn't do that till last summer when he was 15) was that DS would write he writes well. And some grades & teachers never saw the problem, for example his 8th grade teacher for honors humanities. Still not sure what magic she had as a teacher. Plus the fact that he has labeled as GATE and so much of a better writer than his sister who has a language processing LS made me a bit compliant. When he was having these problems in his 6th grade gifted class, I overlooked the problem and rationalized it that they were asking above grade level. I found him help for his anxiety and social issues but didn't look for the root of the problem and try and work on his writers block.

    I'm not sure how you can convince the teachers but you do need to work with this now. In order to graduate H.S. DS needs to take 4 years of English, and writing is 50% of his grade. In our H.S. most writing is still done in class. All the A's in math & science class won't change anything.

    As I said in a previous post you can find specialist that will work with your daughter on this kind of problem. Although honestly most English tutors told me this is the hardest part of writing to work on. You need to find someone special. I ended up doing a full neropsc test last summer that really helped clarify all the issues my son has been going through and made it easier to get the 504. Although the 504 only gives him accommodations like more time during in class writing and the ability to turn in homework like this late. Because my son was already the agreement was the H.S. was going to accommodate and I was going to work at home on getting him help. He had a tutor for a while that did help but she left and I never found one to replace her.

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    Originally Posted by Cookie
    Pohi?

    Ohi is other health impaired right? What is pohi?

    POHI is physical and other health impaired. To evaluate DS for the "physically impaired" category they had to have one of these teachers on his eval. team. Of course, our district doesn't have such a teacher because they don't write these kinds of IEPs or give services, so in the rare instances when they need to (for instance when crazy parents like me make demands), they contract out for the services.

    They completely messed up even evaluating the "other health impaired" category (for ADHD). For instance they were supposed to have a spec. ed teacher observe her, do a full achievement test, etc. and they didn't. So even if they had wanted to qualify her, there would have been no way for them to check off the boxes for the state.

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    Thank you for the links. I will check them out. I have a feeling I will need to go to due process with the district. They will probably have an attorney and I won't.

    bluemagic--don't beat yourself up. It's incredibly difficult trying to figure out what is going on with these kids. I made the mistake of increasing her meds because teachers kept telling me she wasn't doing work/wasn't focusing. So she was probably over-medicated.
    she's in a new school and will have the same teacher next year as well. So far the teacher seems very reasonable in terms of listening to my concerns, however I don't think she has any idea how to really help (any better than I do). The biggest thing right now is to try to reduce the anxiety. It's almost like she now has a panic disorder from being mismanaged for so long. I am still waiting to get a copy of the neuropsych/ed. psych report that we had privately and I hope he has some really good suggestions. I told him that he needs to lay everything out for them/us in detail, like Step A, Step B, etc.

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    Blackcat, aside from the EF issues, your dd sounds very much like my dd12. Her teachers thought she had them, though, because she could NOT do writing at all (zero words on the TOWL, only 13 months ago) and all her work is incredibly slow. She now has an educational therapist who is helping with idea generation and organization, and the difference is like night and day. We probably spent five months looking for the right person, but after six months of therapy, her writing is acceptable, at least when it's not personal opinion. We're continuing therapy; I can't wait to see the results after a year!

    There is hope. It gets better. Our private testers were able to recommend the therapist that suited us; perhaps yours can help you find someone?

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    ljoy- What is this educational therapist's background? Just trying to see if we could replicate your search! DS11 has similar challenges, including those with EF and written expression. Just the act of writing is difficult with his fine motor issues, so a lot goes into the production of writing. Its hard to get him to keyboard when everyone is hand writing. Just started posting here- SO wonderful to see that our challenges are not particularly 'unique'!

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