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    #211085 02/19/15 10:13 AM
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    Hello all,
    Mum of three, 6 year old, 3 year old, and 1 year old. We are homeschooling in Ontario, Canada.
    What to do for a boy who WILL NOT sleep in past 5 am? And when he does get up, he wakes the entire household? This has been going on for six years now and we are all fried *sigh* Any tips?
    thanks

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    Welcome canuckgirl! We had the same situation with our first-born also - he woke up at 5 just as perky and ready to be active as can be, unlike my dh and myself at that time of day! He also didn't go to sleep until around 11 pm, never napped, and was a light sleeper so he often woke up in the middle of the night if there was a noise anywhere within 20 miles of our house smile

    He is still, today at 15, an early riser who doesn't require much sleep, and it's a good thing now, because his high school schedule starts really early in the morning.

    Back then, what we did, by the time he was 5, was to have a small something out that he could grab and eat by himself (cereal, apple, granola bar etc), and let him watch cartoons on tv or play with his toys by himself. That worked for his personality, although he never ran off to do any of that independent play until he'd first jumped on our bed excitedly announcing the start of a new day smile

    Hang in there - I can honestly say *now* that I miss those days smile

    Best wishes,

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    Hi and Welcome!
    Well, I'm sure you've already looked at whether he is getting too much sleep during the day? And that he is getting plenty of exercise out doors in the afternoon? When our DD was younger we had firm rules about getting up that flexed with age. At 6 we were (if I remember correctly) letting her read quietly or silently play with her paper crafts. If she needed something that required an adult, she could call us from her bed. This was only allowed in the morning; at night she just had to hang out with the light out (no book, no stuffed animals, nothing at all). We all discussed it and talked about the rules and the reasons for the rules. She was free to come out as soon as one of us came and said "Good Morning". Since my DH is a crazy early riser, she did not usually have to wait.

    If all else has failed, I would consider talking to his pediatrician about a consult with a sleep specialist. If he is going to bed early and waking early, they may have you use a light box to shift his circadian rhythm.

    Hopefully, you'll get more suggestions from people who have BTDT

    canuckgirl #211102 02/19/15 03:31 PM
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    My question on the 6yo who wakes early is, what is his total sleeping pattern, and where are there opportunities to adjust it? Maybe he's waking too early because he's going to bed too early, or because he's taking a nap that he may not need.

    Our DD10 no longer needs as much management in that area as she did when she was younger, but we still continue to monitor her sleep with a holistic view. So if we took a long car ride and DD knocked out, we knew we'd probably benefit by letting her stay up later that night, or else she'd be waking us up early.

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    Thanks- will try the granola bar idea. We just came back from shopping smile

    No go on the tv, as we don't have one... but we have tried a toy box in the room and all hell broke loose. It actually sounded like a hurricane. Oh well.

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    thanks- will look into the light box idea smile

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    no, he doesn't go to bed early, never has *sigh* and he won't sleep in the car (even though the other two will). We keep him up as late as possible and he still gets up before sunrise, no matter what... we even kept a noise machine on in the room next to him, just in case he was hearing street noise. We also got the thickest, darkest curtains ever smile
    Will keep at it though...

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    Welcome fellow Canuck! I just sent you a PM. smile


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    What to do for a boy who WILL NOT sleep in past 5 am? And when he does get up, he wakes the entire household? This has been going on for six years now and we are all fried *sigh* Any tips?
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    Have you considered a weighted blanket?

    Weighted blanket can help more than just sleep problems
    David Hochman
    April 25, 2014
    Forbes
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    It’s called a weighted blanket and it might be the secret weapon you’re looking for as a parent of a high-energy kid.
    ...
    Traditionally, weighted blankets are used as part of occupational therapy for children experiencing sensory disorders, anxiety, stress or issues related to autism. But even kids without such a diagnosis find important benefits. After a week under his new 16-pound blue chenille Magic Blanket, my son, who’s 10, was sleeping more soundly and waking up happier and more focused than he has in ages.
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    “That extra pressure on the body is helpful for kids of all kinds, but particularly for kids with autism and sensory processing disorder,” Zivalich says. The added weight, he says, causes the brain to release neurotransmitters like serotonin and dopamine that improve moods and induce a calming effect. Temple Grandin has been the most outspoken advocate for using deep touch pressure to soothe special needs children, college students and animals.

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    Oh - I have to have one of those for DS! He insists on me laying beside him with my arm over him to go to sleep. Wonder where I can buy one in Canada?

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