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    Originally Posted by Old Dad
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    Maybe not, but it should.

    Oh? Why is that? Anyone that can complete the courses required and make passing grads deserves the diploma regardless of whether it was easy or hard for them, whether their blessing came from IQ or simply a killer work ethic. In the end, the work done is what counts, not how that work was achieved so long as it was done honestly and with integrity.

    I disagree. We need a few institutions of learning where student capabilities are universally very, very high, and the course material is geared to them. If this would mean reducing the number of institutions where dullish tiger cubs get admitted and ask, "Will this be on the test?" then so be it.

    Oh, how wonderful it would be if gifties were allowed to have an environment where they would be challenged at a level that reflects their abilities. Like it or not, most people --- even the high achievers --- simply aren't up to that, any more than most of us can work hard and make it to the nationals in the 200m dash.

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    Originally Posted by Old Dad
    Originally Posted by Val
    Maybe not, but it should.

    Oh? Why is that? Anyone that can complete the courses required and make passing grads deserves the diploma regardless of whether it was easy or hard for them, whether their blessing came from IQ or simply a killer work ethic. In the end, the work done is what counts, not how that work was achieved so long as it was done honestly and with integrity.

    I'm still trying to figure out why college wasn't a waste of five years of my life.

    I got a diploma.

    Whee.

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    Originally Posted by Val
    Originally Posted by Old Dad
    Originally Posted by Val
    Maybe not, but it should.

    Oh? Why is that? Anyone that can complete the courses required and make passing grads deserves the diploma regardless of whether it was easy or hard for them, whether their blessing came from IQ or simply a killer work ethic. In the end, the work done is what counts, not how that work was achieved so long as it was done honestly and with integrity.

    I disagree. We need a few institutions of learning where student capabilities are universally very, very high, and the course material is geared to them. If this would mean reducing the number of institutions where dullish tiger cubs get admitted and ask, "Will this be on the test?" then so be it.

    Oh, how wonderful it would be if gifties were allowed to have an environment where they would be challenged at a level that reflects their abilities. Like it or not, most people --- even the high achievers --- simply aren't up to that, any more than most of us can work hard and make it to the nationals in the 200m dash.

    I think that is what Ph.D programs are for.

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    Originally Posted by Val
    Oh, how wonderful it would be if gifties were allowed to have an environment where they would be challenged at a level that reflects their abilities. Like it or not, most people --- even the high achievers --- simply aren't up to that, any more than most of us can work hard and make it to the nationals in the 200m dash.

    Hey, anyone can create an environment where they can be challenged, the world is out there waiting. People act as though college is the only place to do that! If you don't like the system, don't play the game, make your own game.

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    Originally Posted by Thomas Percy
    Originally Posted by Val
    Originally Posted by Old Dad
    Originally Posted by Val
    Maybe not, but it should.

    Oh? Why is that? Anyone that can complete the courses required and make passing grads deserves the diploma regardless of whether it was easy or hard for them, whether their blessing came from IQ or simply a killer work ethic. In the end, the work done is what counts, not how that work was achieved so long as it was done honestly and with integrity.

    I disagree. We need a few institutions of learning where student capabilities are universally very, very high, and the course material is geared to them. If this would mean reducing the number of institutions where dullish tiger cubs get admitted and ask, "Will this be on the test?" then so be it.

    Oh, how wonderful it would be if gifties were allowed to have an environment where they would be challenged at a level that reflects their abilities. Like it or not, most people --- even the high achievers --- simply aren't up to that, any more than most of us can work hard and make it to the nationals in the 200m dash.

    I think that is what Ph.D programs are for.

    I thought the point of Ph.D. programs was to get cheap labor for the universities.

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    Yes. But being smart does not always mean they are expensive, ask the physicists and the biologists. Only the law school and business school smarts translate to money.

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    Originally Posted by Thomas Percy
    Yes. But being smart does not always mean they are expensive, ask the physicists and the biologists. Only the law school and business school smarts translate to money.

    Of course not. TA's are even cheaper labor than adjuncts, in many instances. wink


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    Originally Posted by Thomas Percy
    Yes. But being smart does not always mean they are expensive, ask the physicists and the biologists. Only the law school and business school smarts translate to money.

    I was talking about the grad students, not the Ph.D.'s themselves.

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    Well, they do graduate eventually and some of the lucky ones will become the advisors themselves.

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    Originally Posted by Thomas Percy
    Only the law school and business school smarts translate to money.

    And by "smarts", you mean "lack of ethics to hold you back."

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