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#17573  06/07/08 03:18 PM
The Dreaded Flash Cards?

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Registered: 03/31/08
Posts: 323
Loc: Back in Texas, alas!

Pud (almost 7) wants to do division and multiplication. He also wants exponents and square roots. He already understands the concepts but is held back because he doesn't have his addition and subtraction facts memorized. I thought that he pretty much had them down a year ago; now I'm finding he doesn't (or he did and he lost them). We are very frustrated. Should we do more +/ problems? Or should we use flash cards until he has them memorized? Or will adding/subtracting multidigit numbers accomplish this? He loves math and is always asking for "more". But, without those simple math facts down pat, I'm having trouble with that.
Sometimes I find him counting on his fingers to add or subtract. He is doing this more now than he did before 1st grade. He also is counting up and down now (due to the introduction in 1st grade of a number line, I think). He gets very bored with the sheets of math problems I've given him.
Suggestions?

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#17581  06/07/08 07:03 PM
Re: The Dreaded Flash Cards?
[Re: Texas Summer]

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Registered: 12/13/05
Posts: 7207
Loc: Connecticut

Funniest I've heard of is hanging the 'Facts poster' up across from the 'John' so that they can't help but learn a bit at a time.
I wish I had heard of it at the time.
I see memorizing Math facts as a totally different, but also important skill than learning Math. Split the topic into two different subjects "memorization training" and "Math" 
You can also try getting him to learn to 'remove' multiples of 5 from any number. So 36 + 12 becomes 35 plus 10 plus 1 plus 2  some kids just like it better that way. Then one only has to memorize 4 +1 = 5, 3+2= 5, 6 is 5 +1, 7 is 5+2, 8 is 5+3, and 9 is 5+4. And you are all done!
For multiplication I love 'skip counting' and you can just start doing it now, instead of regular counting, when timing anything or playing board games. Rolling a 3 and a 4 means skip counting by 3's four times. See how quickly you can get around the Monopoly board that way!
Let's skip count by 4's to see how long it takes for your hot dog to heat up in the microwave.
At our house we just waited until the school insisted, and then DH who loves that 'instant response' kind of thing quized him every morning on the way to school. I stayed out of the whole process. But if I knew then what I know now, I would have started all this goofy stuff at age 4! But no, I was still worried that I'd be burned at the stake for hothousing.
((shrug)) Grinity
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#17584  06/07/08 08:42 PM
Re: The Dreaded Flash Cards?
[Re: Grinity]

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Registered: 03/15/08
Posts: 435

We do something silly  my DS5 loves all kinds of math patterns and he is extremely visual and he got interested in multiplication a few months ago  We bought him a poster as well that is in his room and then he had me write out a "book" that has the 1x table on one page up to 1x12, the 2x tables on the next page up to 2x12 and so on until the 12's x tables. We used to sing the alphabet song while he brushed his teeth just so I know that he didn't brush in 10 seconds flat, then it turned to addition tables sang to him while brushing and about a month ago he asked us to sing the multiplication tables from his book pages while brushing his teeth. He loves it (we can't sing to save our lives but he doesn't care) and he is beginning to remember the times tables :) We also found this cool book at one of the book stores  the one he has is addition, but I thought they had one for multiplication as well (you open the page and you flip around each page to see addition facts  my son has used this so much.. http://www.booksamillion.com/ncom/books?id=4128964089526&pid=1584763264

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#17607  06/09/08 04:13 AM
Re: The Dreaded Flash Cards?
[Re: Dazed&Confuzed]

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Registered: 12/13/05
Posts: 7207
Loc: Connecticut

For Adding I love the card game called 'Cassino' and some family variations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassino_%28card_game%29
so much fun! Played with regular cards.
Grinity
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#17622  06/09/08 01:43 PM
Re: The Dreaded Flash Cards?
[Re: CFK]

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Registered: 09/01/07
Posts: 3296
Loc: California

I never required my kids to memorize addition/subtraction facts or their times tables. My two youngest, the ones I post about on this board, both hate rote memorization. I never made that a requirement to exposing them to higher level math, either. Granted it took them longer to do the calculations on the more advanced concept, but eventually the math facts sank in and in the meantime their love of math was being continually fed . Both are working three grades or more above level in math now, so not learning the facts first has apparently not harmed them. I say let your son learn what he wants to learn. If he sees that the lack of knowledge of the facts is keeping him from doing what he wants to do he'll be more inspired to learn them than if you just keep giving him worksheets. Woof! You described my approach exactly (my husband too, but I'll write "I" to avoid sounding like the royal We here). I figure that my kids can learn the previous topic by doing the next one. I get them to a point where they have the basic idea down pretty well and move on. So, for example, long division forces practice at multiplication. I agree completely that this keeps love of math alive. Val

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