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I'm confused, too, so maybe THEY haven't figured out what WISC scores they need? Are they trying to qualify her under option A or option B? What WISC score are they claiming matches each option? Have they refused to take the GAI? It sounds like they aren't sure - LOL! They do not seem to be very clear in what alternative scores they will accept. It IS good that they will accept alternative scores - not all programs will. I would want them to clarify (and I think your DD may have an argument that she qualifies under either).
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Also, does the school calculate and use a composite V+Q, instead of a total composite (V+Q+N) for the CogAT? Could this be what she is talking about?
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Would they consider alternatives for the WISC verbal subtest as "achievement scores"? 99th percentile for verbal WISC and the high math score from her original testing...those are high scores, too...
Ok, I think I understand (saw your last post). So the 98% math achievement probably wouldn't be enough because that group usually doesn't get in? Does the program have a limited # of seats, so even if they meet the criteria at this level, they could be excluded?
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Ok, I think I understand (saw your last post). So the 98% math achievement probably wouldn't be enough because that group usually doesn't get in? Does the program have a limited # of seats, so even if they meet the criteria at this level, they could be excluded? I am guessing only about 25-30 kids in each grade are accepted from the entire district. So it is possible that even some kids in Level 1 won't be "invited". If they actually did the cluster grouping appropriately none of this would matter--I would just keep her in her current school in the cluster group. But the cluster group does almost nothing and there is virtually no g/t program other than this magnet.
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If she has a WISC FSIQ of 99%, that is well above the 132 CogAT. The CogAT percentiles drop quickly when you go below 135. So her math plus WISC could qualify her.
I would also make the case, though, that her GAI is OVER a 139 CogAT subtest. There is a chart online (I'm on my phone) that should provide %s above 99%. I can find this later, unless someone beats me to it.
Either way, you have a strong case for getting your DD in, IMO.
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Honestly it sounds like they don't use and maybe haven't even looked at the flowchart. As far as they are concerned the criteria is an AND not an OR and they are more likely just to keep apologising for confusing you and insisting the flowchart just has a minor typing error than admit they are wrong. Probably the flow chart will "have been done by a person who no longer works for us and misunderstood the criteria" and "nobody else has had any problem with using the flow chart but since you do we will delete it".
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