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    #172103 - 10/20/13 10:12 PM Re: iPads in school: I don't get it. [Re: Val]
    bluemagic Offline
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    Registered: 03/29/13
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    IPads CAN be used well in the classroom. But most teachers don't have the skill to do this. Or the correct software. I remember when my son was in 2nd grade and "computers" was the kids learning to login to the computer and play some "edutainment" games that I as a parent volunteer supervised. It was a complete joke.

    On the other hand is his 6th grade gifted class they used ipads (they had just come out) & netbooks to do some very creative projects. The teacher was able to get the school to put in wifi to his classroom, and the kids were using technology is very creative ways.

    As a programmer I've thought about this issue extensively. How best to use technology in the classroom. My experience it is mostly used as a research tool or for writing assignments.

    A good example of "failed" technology. Is my kids high school invested in these smart boards with cool "remotes" for the kids. Ideally this allowed for many free form instant quizzes, and could give teachers instant feedback to how well the whole class was grasping material. Unfortunately the remotes needed batteries, and a few in every class always needed new ones and they couldn't be used. It only took a few weeks for the teachers to give up..

    IMO you need to settle on the SOFTWARE before you invest in the technology. There is a lot of good software for IPads but one should figure out how you want the kids to use the technology and to make sure the teachers are properly trained FIRST.

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    #172127 - 10/21/13 06:47 AM Re: iPads in school: I don't get it. [Re: bluemagic]
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    Originally Posted By: bluemagic
    IMO you need to settle on the SOFTWARE before you invest in the technology. There is a lot of good software for IPads but one should figure out how you want the kids to use the technology and to make sure the teachers are properly trained FIRST.


    IMO, software isn't even the first consideration. First and foremost is, "What do you want your students to be able to DO?" This question precedes hardware and software choices, because those decisions flow from the previous one.

    This iPad roll-out could have been a success if all they wanted to do was provide the children with access to Google using the least-expensive and most-accessible hardware, and they had bothered to answer all the legal and technical questions that flowed from that particular choice of hardware.

    Note that there's been no discussion of software at this point. Once an investment has already been made in the hardware, THEN the further exploitation of it through additional software is a worthwhile conversation.

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    #172151 - 10/21/13 09:09 AM Re: iPads in school: I don't get it. [Re: Val]
    ultramarina Offline
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    Bluemagic--Yes! That is where I am coming down on this issue, too. And ITA on the uselessness of "computers" being 20 minutes of edutainment.

    We just got smartphones (yes, just) and the thing I am excited about my DD using is this:

    http://www.creatorverse.com/

    Everything else she's been doing so far I consider pure frippery--not that frippery is bad, in its place. Interestingly, though, Creatorverse is her favorite "game." (She thinks it's a game and I'm not going to argue.)

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    #172155 - 10/21/13 09:25 AM Re: iPads in school: I don't get it. [Re: Val]
    NotSoGifted Offline
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    Registered: 04/14/12
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    I don't know that the cost of iPads can be justified, but my 10th grader was issued one at school this year. They just started the program last year - looks like they will issue them in 10th and kids will use them through 12th grade.

    Aside from the fact that the school IT gurus "fixed" her iPad (one app would not download/work) and gave it back to her with five apps not working, it is going okay. Last year, the kids did some pretty neat multimedia stuff in the honors/AP/gifted classes. I also now see the use of Skype - my kid was able to collaborate on a group project yesterday afternoon without going over to another kid's home - they all could chat/view materials wherever they happened to be.

    Likely not worth the cost, but then again this is a wealthy school district. Last year when my eldest applied for a need-based college scholarship granted through the high school, the application asked for the value and mortgage on both our primary residence and our vacation home (umm...we don't have a vacation home, but plenty of families around here do).

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    #172157 - 10/21/13 09:51 AM Re: iPads in school: I don't get it. [Re: ultramarina]
    Zen Scanner Offline
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    Registered: 07/13/12
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    Loc: NC
    Originally Posted By: ultramarina
    Everything else she's been doing so far I consider pure frippery--not that frippery is bad, in its place. Interestingly, though, Creatorverse is her favorite "game." (She thinks it's a game and I'm not going to argue.)


    Alas, when done right, all learning is play?

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