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    #166588 - 09/05/13 10:17 AM Re: Math curriculum [Re: cammom]
    cammom Offline
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    Registered: 07/11/13
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    Wanted to mention (another poster said it too) that yes, ixl math also brings out my son's perfectionism. It's because ixl seems to use Kumon style timed drills. If my son misses one, he gets seriously peeved and starts yelling at the computer (been there;). I've caught him doing the pre-k material so he's sure to get them correct (he's in first grade). It's exasperating.
    I am keeping my subscription to ixl because its not terribly expensive and can be helpful if he needs practice.
    For homeschoolers amd any else, we love BrainPop. The videos are engaging a transparent. We looked at the one on equivalent fractions. It was crystal clear. They also have lessons in science, health, social studies, etc.

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    #166627 - 09/05/13 02:14 PM Re: Math curriculum [Re: cammom]
    KCMI Offline
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    Registered: 09/04/13
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    I agree to master math facts. But disagree that 1st is too early. Our 1st grade expects kids to master 0-20 single digit +\- in first. They do simple multiplication in 2nd. (0,1,2,4,5,10 facts) this is a regular classroom.

    Many 1st grade topics also include fractions, measuring, money (adding and finding equivilant sums), using problem solving and simple puzzles ( x+7= 10).


    No one curricula fits all... So find what works for your kiddos learning style

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    #166635 - 09/05/13 02:33 PM Re: Math curriculum [Re: cammom]
    MumOfThree Offline
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    Registered: 04/07/11
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    Loc: Australia
    The math facts are certainly DDs stumbling block (yr 2, skipped) she's not strong enough on subtraction within 20 for subtraction with regrouping, which she is perfectly able for conceptually.

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    #166642 - 09/05/13 03:35 PM Re: Math curriculum [Re: cammom]
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    My son was not being challenged in school so I signed him up for IXL in 2nd grade and asked him to spend 45 minutes on it most days after school. He wound up going through all of the exercises over the next two years up through eighth grade so after many many meetings we convinced the school to let him work on EPGY during the regular math period beginning in fourth grade. EPGY is advanced so we repeated 5th/6th, Pre Algebra and Honors Algebra in fourth grade. He just began EPGY Intermediate Algebra and is in fifth grade. The issue we have is that even though the school has "allowed" him to do this last year and this year, he is not getting recognition for what he has done thus could potentially have to repeat the material but I have documented enough to hopefully avoid that.

    The school has recently suggested that we move to Novanet after this quarter of EPGY finishes at the end of November as he will be able to "test-out" of material he has mastered. At this stage, not sure what will happen but we will see. I have no experience with Novanet but it does not look bad...

    The point of the above is that if you are supplementing their learning you will quickly wind up many many grades ahead. I am not suggesting not to do this but realize what is ahead. My son did Singapore Math also - it is more challenging than what we were doing locally in NC, especially the later grades.

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    #166680 - 09/06/13 07:18 AM Re: Math curriculum [Re: cammom]
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    Registered: 09/03/13
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    Loc: NJ
    We like IXL a lot over here - my son is only 3, so there is a lot for him to putter around in - he is a total math head, has been obsessed with numbers since almost forever, and he is hovering around 3rd grade math, give or take on ixl. What I especially like is the ability to bounce around by grade and skill.

    But I was wondering, whats the difference between ixl and singapore math and dreambox and math whizz etc? thanks! smile

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    #166687 - 09/06/13 07:49 AM Re: Math curriculum [Re: cammom]
    doubtfulguest Offline
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    hi Marnie! i rejected IXL based on the timed-stuff mentioned above for our DD who learned pretty much nothing but perfectionism at school last year. she loved Dreambox for a while this summer, but we were really only using that to figure out if she had any gaps before starting homeschool (on Monday!).

    but all that said, Mathletics is her true love - weirdly, i don't see that one mentioned here a lot. i like it because it doesn't have a million repetitions and will let DD skip to the test if she feels ready, which is a nice way of letting her take control of her own readiness. it also offers easier/harder options in case one area needs an adjustment - it's clear she's getting a lot out of it.
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    #166812 - 09/07/13 06:04 AM Re: Math curriculum [Re: cammom]
    cammom Offline
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    To Marnie- great that your DS likes ixl- traditional drills on the computer.

    Singapore math is a highly regarded school and homeschool curriculum for teaching elementary age math.

    Dreambox (my son's fav): Math games, teaching concepts. We get it free through DS's school.

    BrainPoP: a series of fun, videos on a variety of academic subjects including math. The videos are in cartoon form, the explanations transparent, and there are quizzes at the end. I usually let DS choose what interests him, but if there is something in particular that he needs to learn, BrainPoP can help. We bought the younger and older kid version.

    Khan Academy: free videos on virtually anything including math. So far, explanations are clear.

    If your son likes ixl there is an app (Math App) on the iPad. We're using it for rote memorization of multiplication tables. It's adaptable to go up to 20 and you can set the time allotted for each question. Right off, I will tell you that my son can mechanically and conceptually do long multiplication, but without knowing the tables cold, he struggled with frustration.

    I don't actually use the computer as much as it sounds like- but it can work for visual explanation (fractions seemed to require a lot of visual) and to put some fun into math drills/ math facts.

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    #166818 - 09/07/13 06:53 AM Re: Math curriculum [Re: cammom]
    Curiouser Offline
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    Registered: 09/03/13
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    Loc: NJ
    Thanks Cammon! I have no idea how DS would respond to the other formats - I stumbled upon IXL awhile ago without realizing there were a bunch of other math sites. We'll have to check them out and see how it goes. (I will admit, lately, DS has shown some frustration with getting answers wrong on IXL- and the whole 'wanting to always get it right' will sometimes end up with him trying to go to the easier grades where the likelihood of messing up is almost nonexistant. Perfectionism at its best, right? So maybe a different structure would alleviate that situation.)



    Edited by Marnie (09/07/13 06:53 AM)

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    #166827 - 09/07/13 09:04 AM Re: Math curriculum [Re: ruazkaz]
    Dbat Offline
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    Registered: 02/14/12
    Posts: 353
    Originally Posted By: ruazkaz
    The issue we have is that even though the school has "allowed" him to do this last year and this year, he is not getting recognition for what he has done thus could potentially have to repeat the material but I have documented enough to hopefully avoid that.

    The school has recently suggested that we move to Novanet after this quarter of EPGY finishes at the end of November as he will be able to "test-out" of material he has mastered. At this stage, not sure what will happen but we will see. I have no experience with Novanet but it does not look bad...


    Hi, ruazkaz,
    I'm just wondering what part of NC you're in. We're in the Triangle area and have been at private schools where they are kind of letting DD work on material we are now bringing in (AoPS for now)--but I don't know whether she'll end up getting credit for it either. I was hoping that a school might let her test out and take appropriate courses, but that does seem like a long shot. From what you're saying, too, it sounds like they're only willing to let your DS test ahead if he takes Novanet?? That seems odd, but maybe it aligns better with their curriculum?

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    #168194 - 09/18/13 08:32 AM Re: Math curriculum [Re: cammom]
    Curiouser Offline
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    Registered: 09/03/13
    Posts: 155
    Loc: NJ
    question for all the well-informed parents out there: as far as the math curriculums online (dreambox, khan, singapore etc math whiz etc etc), can someone briefly give a rundown on how each of the sites are presented, and how they differ? I would love to find something less like IXL, and more along the lines of something like starfall...if there is such a thing. a way to learn and it be more fun. (not that the multiple choice isnt fun, but it becomes a little problematic with perfectionist DS wanting to get all the answers right and becoming frustrated any time he misses a question...regardless of what grade he is working on. I would love your feedback!


    Edited by Marnie (09/18/13 08:32 AM)

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