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    Thank you, Dude. That's what I face all the time: people get so defensive and infer whatever they want from one person choosing to be veg*n.

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    Perfectly put, Cricket2.

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    Originally Posted by HowlerKarma
    I have to think that cat must taste just dreadful, too, given how seldom it appears in traditional world cuisines. sick

    I wouldn't be too quick to that conclusion. Our dietary practices often have more to do with emotion than with taste or nutrition.

    Cats were revered in ancient Egypt, and that culture was spread through the Romans.

    We also have a tendency to avoid eating things that are cute. This is a major reason why rabbit isn't more commonly consumed.

    Finally... purring.

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    Originally Posted by SiaSL
    I have never butchered or eaten a cat either wink so all second hand (or worse) anecdotes. But those stories are old and lively.

    Yeah, I have wondered about the issue of taste too (obligate carnivore vs. herbivore seem unlikely to be that close). But frogs taste a lot like chicken (and chicken are not exclusive herbivore) and... if nobody can 'fess up to cat, what about alligator?

    Gator is a delight. It's a white meat, but it doesn't taste like chicken, though since I've only had it in sausage form, other results may vary.

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    Originally Posted by Cricket2
    This really can't and shouldn't be about who has the moral high ground here.

    I'm going to go ahead and claim the moral high ground anyway.

    Through this discussion, I have been able to conclude that I am, in fact, morally superior.

    I had to use black and white reasoning to reach this conclusion, but that was only after I concluded that the only way to reach the conclusion I deeply desired was through black and white reasoning.

    So, nothing against non-black and white thinking, but sometimes it just can't get the job done.

    Winning!

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    Take that you moral reprobates!

    Oh, yeah!

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    You know, the OP was about vegetarianism. Now all the meateaters have jumped aboard to give their two cents on why meat is good. Yes, we get it. No one is better than you.

    And I don't find the jokes about killing or eating animals or mocking veg*ns respectful at all.

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    Originally Posted by squishys
    And I don't find the jokes about killing or eating animals or mocking veg*ns respectful at all.

    What's about milk cows?

    Milk cows seem perfectly content to *be* milk cows.

    At least, the milk cows I've encountered.

    They're well fed and cared for.

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    I utterly reject the notion that vegans are somehow morally superior or being vegan means that one is automatically more intelligent than everyone else.

    I think it would be necessary for someone to have first proposed that notion in order for your rejection to be relevant to the discussion. It seems to me that the opposite has been stated and agreed to, by people on different ends of the omnivore/herbivore continuum.


    The 'opposite' you are referring to being that vegans are morally reprehensible and stupid?

    I didn't see that either being stated or universally agreed to on this thread myself nor do I think it. Do you?

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    Originally Posted by madeinuk
    The 'opposite' you are referring to being that vegans are morally reprehensible and stupid?

    No.

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    In all seriousness, isn't a major question here the actual human carrying capacity of the earth in terms of (sustainable) agriculture/animal husbandry?

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