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    #160081 - 06/13/13 12:48 PM Re: A great article... [Re: JonLaw]
    KADmom Offline
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    Originally Posted By: JonLaw
    I'm pretty certain that this problem is completely self-correcting.

    Because once the nation of wimps become parents, they will be unable to actually cope with their own lives, let alone have enough psychic energy left over to helicopter parent their children.

    Problem solved.


    Ha!

    Forever a pendulum...

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    #160086 - 06/13/13 01:22 PM Re: A great article... [Re: KADmom]
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    Originally Posted By: KADmom
    Originally Posted By: JonLaw
    I'm pretty certain that this problem is completely self-correcting.

    Because once the nation of wimps become parents, they will be unable to actually cope with their own lives, let alone have enough psychic energy left over to helicopter parent their children.

    Problem solved.


    Ha!

    Forever a pendulum...


    Indeed. Because the following generation will have to raise itself, so they'll be strong and resilient. But they'll be so bitter about the lack of parental involvement that they'll swear they'll do better... and get hyperinvolved.

    I'm convinced the helicopter parenting trend of today is a direct result of the latchkey kid trend of the 70s-90s.

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    #160099 - 06/13/13 02:42 PM Re: A great article... [Re: phey]
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    I don't think there's a good way to shift from hellicoptering to non-hellicoptering, though.

    I went from basically what was hellicoptering to college (hard shift from complete to really no actual support) and ended up being quite non-functional for five years.

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    #160103 - 06/13/13 04:13 PM Re: A great article... [Re: JonLaw]
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    Originally Posted By: JonLaw
    I'm pretty certain that this problem is completely self-correcting.

    Because once the nation of wimps become parents, they will be unable to actually cope with their own lives, let alone have enough psychic energy left over to helicopter parent their children.

    Problem solved.


    Don't be silly-- OUR generation of parents will be raising our grandchildren. Far too important a job to trust it to our kids to handle...


    happily, most helicoptered children will meekly step aside and let their parents take over when they feel overwhelmed (and what new parent doesn't, right?), so all will be well in the end.

    wink



    Edited by HowlerKarma (06/13/13 04:14 PM)
    Edit Reason: the wink was particularly important on this post
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    #160104 - 06/13/13 05:34 PM Re: A great article... [Re: phey]
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    Dude, I am absolutely certain some of our parenting choices are rebound behaviour from feeling both our parents "benign neglect" approach was not always that benign. But conversely I am aware of the good things our parents did that I sometimes fail to do and how to correct that. Where is the freaking middle ground? I'd love to find it.

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    #160143 - 06/14/13 08:04 AM Re: A great article... [Re: phey]
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    Over the past few years, I've simplified my theory of helicopter parenting to this -

    "Helicopter parenting is what happens when Generation X has children."

    Many of the defining moments/themes of Gen X were steeped in danger, darkness, or loneliness -- the advent of AIDS, the Cold War, the Challenger explosion, "latchkey" children, etc. When Hope and Fear Collide by Arthur Levine and Jeanette Cureton is a really good book that talks about how those moments impacted Gen X'ers as college students. It seems completely logical to me that we've seen an increase in the number of parents who want to hold on a little longer and have more oversight in their childrens' lives after living through the previously mentioned things. Some parents find a healthy balance naturally, and some find it when they're forced to. I agree with other posters, though, that eventually the pendulum will swing back in the other direction.


    Edited by Diamondblue (06/14/13 08:05 AM)
    Edit Reason: The book title wasn't italicized! Eek!

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    #160652 - 06/20/13 10:46 AM Re: A great article... [Re: phey]
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    Not sure which thread to post in, but how's this for helicopter parenting?
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/20/french-woman-daughter-sit-exam-baccalaureat

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    #160654 - 06/20/13 10:56 AM Re: A great article... [Re: phey]
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    Wait, I thought the American parents were the bad ones. Aren't we supposed to be parenting the French way?

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    #160657 - 06/20/13 11:05 AM Re: A great article... [Re: phey]
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    Oh my. Not so much shocking (after all, this is sort of the natural endpoint of this continuum, and socially the entire culture is inching its way that direction), but sad beyond words.

    I feel so very sorry for the young woman who was raised by that particular parent.
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    #160684 - 06/20/13 12:51 PM Re: A great article... [Re: phey]
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    It's beyond sad when preschool admissions coaching is a thing.

    http://theweek.com/article/index/245770/getting-into-preschool-advice-from-an-admissions-coach

    Bolding is mine:

    Quote:
    But a hired gun like her doesn't come cheap. Shapiro offers a range of services, depending on what clients need. She'll meet with parents over the phone for $150 an hour, or come to you for $250. Packages of six to 10 consultations may be available at a discount to parents who want guidance throughout the admissions process. She also holds two-hour workshops for small groups for a flat $400 per hour fee.

    But, as some parents see it, that's a small price to pay if junior gets into Harvard.

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