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Rich people are just like poor people.
Neither really worries about money.
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Let me also just say that I love that phrase.
moral terpitude
moral terpitude
moral terpitude
moral terpitude
Ahhhh. Love it.
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No, not the norm.
No more than the slacker, lazy 'drain on society' low SES kids who need financial aid are, or the notion that providing that assistance "encourages" laziness or poor work ethics. That may have validity in a small minority of instances, but in most cases the truth is far more nuanced and less damning.
I can't blame a child of a highly privileged background for thoughtlessly assuming that EVERYONE has those opportunities and that confidence that whatever they want to try, money is never an object. It might seem rude, but it's really just lack of life experience.
Similarly, when lower SES parents see kids from higher on the SES acting in certain ways (vacationing lavishly, throwing money rather than time at problems), we may be tempted to ASSUME that there is a moral/ethical explanation... or that our less financially intensive way is more "honorable" but then again, it's because of our lack of life experience, probably.
Both directions-- those are extremely unfair characterizations. Re: the bolded...the thing is that I have seen wealthy parents consciously teach their children that not everyone has the same opportunities and give them (as much as is possible) the life experience to see more of the world and the challenges others face. So I know it can be done.
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Yes, it can-- to the extent that normative adolescents are capable of that kind of internalization to start with. I mean, MOST of them simply cannot (developmentally) really consider other people very well. It is a huge part of why they behave in some of the stereotypically bizarre and socially unacceptable, boorish ways that they do. LOL.
Don't you ever think about other people?? <--- parent's endless lament to their teens
A: Well, no. Actually, not. Why do ask?
The point, of course, is that while parents of high SES may try to give their children this sort of sensitivity, results may be mixed. Some of them will experience an epiphany that allows them to "get it" at some point along the way, and some of them never.
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It took me a while to find anyone who would not treat me as inferior for not having had the same kind of background.
That's not to be afraid of, but it is absolutely to be aware of.
DeeDee I did not experience anything like what you've described. I easily made friends with plenty of people who attended expensive private schools and had lots of money and experiences. For the most part, I think they thought it was cool that I had managed to equal their academic accomplishments without the benefits they had. I think the highly selective nature of the school made a lot of students feel like we were equals. Of course, I couldn't be included in many of their activities for fear of over-drafting my account, but honestly, the rich friends I made even helped me out with that a few times... but only to the extent that I was comfortable with (which wasn't much). I certainly couldn't complain about rich people looking down on me at college. Having money for fun activities and putting yourself together certainly helps with dating prospects though.
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Let me also just say that I love that phrase.
moral terpitude
moral terpitude
moral terpitude
moral terpitude
Ahhhh. Love it. Me too, but it's spelled "turpitude". Write it out three times ;-)
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Let me also just say that I love that phrase.
moral terpitude
moral terpitude
moral terpitude
moral terpitude
Ahhhh. Love it. Then spell it correctly, please.
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Lol, gotta love this board! Two seconds apart.
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LOL.... I should probably be blushing, but I'm too busy laughing...
my bad. And thanks for pointing out my inherent laziness with the cut-and-paste to go with my bad typing/spelling skills, too.
What can I say? I ran out of coffee creamer this morning. Low on caffeine, this is my brain... asleep.
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LOL.... I should probably be blushing, but I'm too busy laughing...
my bad. And thanks for pointing out my inherent laziness with the cut-and-paste to go with my bad typing/spelling skills, too.
What can I say? I ran out of coffee creamer this morning. Low on caffeine, this is my brain... asleep. We could ponder what it says about your psychology that you associate the concept more with Terpsichore than with turpentine...
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