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    #13813 - 04/15/08 10:09 AM Aleks math in school
    incogneato Offline

    Registered: 10/25/07
    Posts: 2231
    Loc: up in my head.......
    I was just shot down today after asking the school to allow DD8 to do Aleks math in school. They say they cannot substitue curriculum.
    Oh rasberries!
    I suppose I could ask them to supplement as opposed to substitute, but I don't want to give them the idea that I think it is okay to ask her to do one digit addition and subtraction worksheets.
    I'm thinking the only get around is to go to the district and ask them to approve this, but then I'm feeling kind of like David vs. Goliath.

    And I was making so much progress over at the school.......


    #13814 - 04/15/08 10:23 AM Re: Aleks math in school [Re: incogneato]
    elh0706 Offline

    Registered: 03/08/07
    Posts: 353
    Loc: PA
    I feel for you! I'm having the same meeting today with my son's school and honestly expect the same result. But I'm also going by the idea that if you don't ask, you won't get smile One of the biggest problems is that DS is bright enough and noconformist enough to see no point in doing extra work. He will either do the more challenging work or do the easy work but he is not a happy camper when he is requested to do both.:(

    #13815 - 04/15/08 10:30 AM Re: Aleks math in school [Re: elh0706]
    LMom Offline

    Registered: 12/14/07
    Posts: 902
    Could he work on Alex if he passes the pretest? That way they wouldn't have to worry that he doesn't know their curriculum and he could still learn something new?

    #13816 - 04/15/08 10:31 AM Re: Aleks math in school [Re: incogneato]
    Ania Offline

    Registered: 02/07/06
    Posts: 802
    Loc: Home :)
    When I brought Aleks to school last year, about mid-year, the Principle took a couple of days to see how it aligns with state curriculum - she did not see a problem.

    A suggested way in, which worked in our case - are there any other kids who are currently bored in that math class? Get those parents on board - school might be easier to be persuaded if there is more than one kid asking for it. We had 5 kids doing Aleks at school last year - all 4th graders. To make it work, parents had to voulnteer to come to school during math class and supervise those 5 in the lab. Three of us were able to do it, but after a couple of months only two parents remained on board, so I started coming twice a week. This way my daughter (and 4 other kids) was able to work on Aleks 3 x weekly.
    Aleks purchased by school is very inexpensive.

    #13822 - 04/15/08 11:17 AM Re: Aleks math in school [Re: Ania]
    delbows Offline

    Registered: 04/25/06
    Posts: 778
    Loc: Midwest
    We were able to have Aleks access at school as a supplement to his slightly accelerated math instruction. We pay for it, but he has used it more often than he would have if he had only been logging on occasionally at home.

    It may not be ideal as a supplement, but might get them warm to the idea.

    #13826 - 04/15/08 11:33 AM Re: Aleks math in school [Re: delbows]
    questions Offline

    Registered: 11/24/07
    Posts: 864
    In our case, it's currently out of the question b/c there is a no headphones rule - they've been in lice lockdown for months! Oh, the joys of elementary school...

    #13830 - 04/15/08 11:40 AM Re: Aleks math in school [Re: questions]
    questions Offline

    Registered: 11/24/07
    Posts: 864
    Incog, I'm sorry they seem to have backpedaled on Aleks. We were able to get pretesting, but all that means is that DS gets their challenge worksheets (without teacher help) in place of the regular stuff. The only change we got was that they agreed that he didn't have to do extra math work on top of whatever they are requiring.

    They did consider, however, access to distance learning courses for him. We backed off but will probably ask about them again (supplying our own headphones, of course). As Grinity posted somewhere else, the thing that worked for us was stressing how unhappy and frustrated he's been in school. When we put it in terms of giftedness, they just cited school policy (have to conform to the curriculum, and differentiation, not acceleration) and threatened to pull his IEP.

    #13837 - 04/15/08 11:49 AM Re: Aleks math in school [Re: questions]
    Kriston Offline

    Registered: 09/19/07
    Posts: 6145
    Loc: Midwest
    I'm so sorry, 'Neato! The pretesting suggestion seems like it might fly, maybe? At least it's a good step to try while you prepare to go to the district over it...

    Anyway, {{hugs}}

    #13844 - 04/15/08 01:34 PM Re: Aleks math in school [Re: Kriston]
    cym Offline

    Registered: 05/01/06
    Posts: 865
    Loc: southwest
    I'm sorry incogneato. How depressing when we come up with the solution and they still won't help. I know how you feel.

    #13845 - 04/15/08 03:02 PM Re: Aleks math in school [Re: incogneato]
    Texas Summer Offline

    Registered: 05/01/06
    Posts: 216
    Loc: Texas
    I'm sorry to hear about your roadblock. Do you have a district gifted coordinator? I talked to our coordinator about ALEKS. After talking to the ALEKS representative and she had the district purchase 100 ALEKS licenses. Fifty were reserved for advance math students and 50 were reserved for students that needed additional help in math. Once it came from the district, the school could not object to my dd using it.

    I hope you can find a way to make it work for your dd.

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