Remember that in many cases, the formula looks at the percentage of students who take AP-- not the pass rate. As long as the school has a lot of kids in those most challenging classes, it doesn't matter if they pass or fail or even whether they take the AP tests at all. Just being in the class raises the rating for the school. On the one hand, I'm all for encouraging kids to be challenged, especially as preparation for college. On the other hand, I have seen kids pushed into classes they can't handle simply because they have AP in front of the title.

yeah, I'm looking at school profiles and accountability documents, which is at least one step beyond the formulas. Number of AP exams given & pass rate can usually be found somewhere on one or both documents. Though, some schools require students to take the exam to get credit for the course and others do not.

The article

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/educat...r-cheating.html
Stuyvesant Students Describe the How and the Why of Cheating
By VIVIAN YEE
New York Times
September 25, 2012

describes such an environment at Stuyvesant. The short story I linked to upthread also concerned cheating, although at a neighborhood high school. I have written many messages about getting into selective colleges, but I had better talk to my children about ethics when they are older and not put too much pressure on them to get into school X.

I kind of flipped back and forth with respect to cheating in high school.

Sometimes I cheated to win and sometimes I let people cheat off of me without cheating off of them (meaning that I tied one hand behind my GPA back, so to speak).

I had a US History class where I never did the homework, which was always lame worksheets. I'd sit down at my desk and copy off my friend before class. She sat right by the door, and sometimes the teacher would walk in, look down, see what we were up to, and walk right on by without missing a beat. It wasn't usually just me copying, either... sometimes I think she was the only one in the class who actually did the homework. This was an AP class. It was the only AP subject in which I got a 5 on the test, so obviously there was no harm.

In Trig/Pre-calc, I used to store formulas in the programming area of my graphing calculator. And then I'd almost never use them, because the very process of keying them into the calculator cemented them in my memory.

So.... there's cheating, and then there's cheating.

I do find it instructive that we're sending children to these pressure-packed environments, where they learn to discard their ethics entirely, and that this path is the fast-track to Harvard and Yale, which are the fast-track to political leadership and CEO positions. Yet, we wonder why we are where we are as a society.

It's because we're collectively stupid.

Cheating always caused me chronic guilt and self-hatred where I would try to destroy my academic career as punishment.

Well, students who cheat their way through high school certainly don't discard the practice afterwards. Why would they? It's a proven winner.

I've been appalled at what some of my DD's friends think of as "not-really-cheating"-- and these are the "good" kids. They cheat to get A's, not because they "need" to do so.

Because it's evil and makes you a horrible person?

But evil people never see themselves as evil, and horrible people never see themselves as horrible.

Final score:
Cognitive Dissonance - 1
Self Awareness - 0

But what about the complete depravity of mankind?

We're all debased and evil!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_depravity

"Total depravity is the fallen state of man as a result of original sin. The doctrine of total depravity asserts that people are by nature not inclined or even able to love God wholly with heart, mind, and strength, but rather all are inclined by nature to serve their own will and desires and to reject the rule of God. Even religion and philanthropy are wicked to God to the extent that these originate from a human imagination, passion, and will, and are not done to the glory of God. Therefore, in Reformed theology, if God is to save anyone He must predestine, call, or elect individuals to salvation since fallen man does not want to, and is indeed incapable of choosing God.[4]

Total depravity does not mean, however, that people are as evil as possible. Rather, it means that even the good which a person may intend is faulty in its premise, false in its motive, and weak in its implementation; and there is no mere refinement of natural capacities that can correct this condition. Thus, even acts of generosity and altruism are in fact egoist acts in disguise. All good, consequently, is derived from God alone, and in no way through man.[5]

This idea can be illustrated by a glass of wine with a few drops of deadly poison in it: Although not all the liquid is poison, all the liquid is poisoned. In the same way, while not all of human nature is depraved, all human nature is totally affected by depravity."