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    Jon Law read Austins post link.


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    Originally Posted by La Texican
    Jon Law read Austins post link.

    I already tried that. It's broken.

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    Link works fine for me.

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    http://www.hare.org/links/saturday.html

    Or google "dr. robert hare the psychopaths among us" and it's the top one.


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    Originally Posted by AlexsMom
    Link works fine for me.

    It's working now.

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    Originally Posted by La Texican
    ...I want to believe the secular humanist version that people are good, everybody's "born ok the first time".  I love that bumpersticker. And I hate to entertain the thought that if not some people can never be "ok".

    Just clarifying: my understanding of secular humanism is that the idea is that people can be moral and ethical without religion/god. There's no idea that everyone is born good or okay.

    I suppose that the idea that "everyone can be okay" is comforting in theory, but I think that putting it into practice can be dangerous. (Not saying you put it into practice! Just taking your idea and adding another one to it). Some people are just not okay.

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    Originally Posted by Val
    Originally Posted by La Texican
    ...I want to believe the secular humanist version that people are good, everybody's "born ok the first time".  I love that bumpersticker. And I hate to entertain the thought that if not some people can never be "ok".

    ...

    I suppose that the idea that "everyone can be okay" is comforting in theory, but I think that putting it into practice can be dangerous. (Not saying you put it into practice! Just taking your idea and adding another one to it). Some people are just not okay.

    Everyone is not born ok the first time.

    A significant portion of the medical, legal, and psychiatric professions exist specifically because people are not born ok.

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    Oh wow. A summer camp for psychopathic children just seems like a really bad idea.

    When I was a kid, I was certain my brother would would become a serial killer and I would be the first victim, he fit the profile in the article. He is now a happy well adjusted family man but he was hell on wheels as a kid. I think his intellect was just so far ahead of everything else including empathy it just made him scary. At the age of 5 or 6, he would sneak-read the books my parents bought on dealing with "problem children" and he would coach me on concepts such as reverse psychology and how to avoid being controlled. He never cut the cat's tail but he did some pretty horrifying things to tadpoles and insects just to see what would happen. Again, he is a very well adjusted family man and has been since his mid 20's so...you never know

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