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    Originally Posted by passthepotatoes
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    If I remember, at one point after I first joined the site, you were advocating the use of coloring books, and I was stating that I don't think that using them is as good as freeform art, since the latter stimulates more creativity. My, how time flies. smile

    I would see coloring books as occasional handwriting and fine motor practice for a kid who likes them and totally different from free form art. Many of my concerns about video games relate to the pacing and potential affects on the brain as well as acting as a captivating draw that may prevent a child from learning to deal with boredom or engage in play that requires more skill areas such as sensory, motor skills, etc. Can't say I've got that same concern about coloring books.

    Yes, they are totally different from free-form art. They're coloring in someone else's art instead of creating art. In comparison, it's hard to understand how using simulated soldiers some of the time, instead of molded plastic ones, is supposed to be so harmful to imagination.

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    Originally Posted by ultramarina
    Focus on my children's future salaries is not really my thing.

    Nor is it mine... but neither is limiting her future options. I see my job as a parent as providing her with an opportunity to develop a rich set of skills, then standing by and watching what she does with them.

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    That said, they are going to have computer skills, of course. Like I said, it's unavoidable. And they're very smart. They'll pick it up as soon as it's made available.

    I didn't have my own computer till the age of 23 and I have never had any problems picking up the computer skills I need, though I don't work in IT or anything like it. Same with my husband, and he's effortlessly picked up things like GIS and SPSS. But am I starting them programming at age 4? No. I suppose some people could see this as a failing on my part. Enh.

    I don't see much value in using my experiences with technology as a benchmark for my child. She'll be an adult in 11 years, and in the last 11 years, the field has changed dramatically. I see no reason for that rate of change to decelerate in the next 11 years.

    My DD7 did a writing project on her computer, which is a decision she made herself. But since her school experience is such a mess (she's in 1st grade, ready for 2nd grade, and jumped into a G/T class full of G/T 3rd graders) she needed a lot of assistance and some heavy editing. She was angry/frustrated/overwhelmed by the assignment enough as it is... it would have been 10x worse if she'd had to do all those revisions by hand.
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    I don't disallow computer use, anyway. But I limit it, and I certainly don't actively suggest it. Pushing computer literacy for these kids just seems utterly unnecessary. IMO, they'll be in front of screens all day soon enough.

    I don't think anyone has to push computer literacy on children these days, especially gifted ones. I think that computer illiteracy can be pushed, though. Restricting screen time is fine if it's necessary... as I said, in my DD's case, we don't restrict simply because she's self-regulating pretty well. If her behavior were different, our policy would be different. But there's restrictive and then there's prohibitive.

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    A brief update (er, if anyone is interested):

    We discovered that my old Dell Latitude was not in such bad repair as first thought, and I have spent the better part of the previous evening and this morning reinstalling WinXP on it.

    There is space on my desk for K to work directly next to me. So although it is a laptop (which will be convenient for travel), it will function essentially as a desktop for him, and I will be able to supervise easily.

    My next step will be finding software to help manage his internet usage, as I expect that most of the software he will be using will be online. I want him to be able to access information on and pictures of trains and rabbits, his two favorite things, without accidentally stumbling onto something he can't unsee.

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    We liked kidzui by Firefox. Hard to install, easy to love. It only offers sites that have been pre-approved by parents and teachers by hand. It's google-like & even has YouTube access.

    Eta: now days he just has his favorites tab and doesn't poke around anywhere else so we don't need kidzui. But it really helped introduce the computer.

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    Originally Posted by La Texican
    We liked kidzui by Firefox.

    Fabulous, thanks for the suggestion!

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    There is also a program called Zoodles that you can use. They cant get to websites other than the ones on there but my children love it. It does youtube (age appropriate) videos and pbs, and a several other websites with kids materials and if you pay for it you can say when, how long, and what characters you want your child to see.

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