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    #117663 - 12/06/11 02:40 PM Re: The ultimate brag thread [Re: Dude]
    Iucounu Offline
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    This is not really a brag-- although I'm proud of DS6, who is, shall we say, highly focused on convincing others that he's right when he is. There's no "Great Big Commiseration Thread" or "Courage in the Face of Grim Adversity Thread", so here it is:

    DS was given a math homework problem dealing with a child walking to the library, then the grocery store, then straight back home. The first part of the question asked how long the total distance would be, after giving the distance from the kid's home to the library, and from the library to the store.

    DS came to me and said, "I don't get it. There's not enough information." He'd drawn a diagram with a circle around the library with a radius reprenting the distance to the store, and then drawn a bunch of lines from the house to the circle to show how the distance home would vary. I told him that his answer was right, and to write out that there wasn't enough info for a solution of that part.

    I just found out from my wife that the homework sheet came home with the teacher's red mark and comments that it was indeed possible, adding the two numbers together for a "solution" based on the assumption that the house, library, and store were all in a straight line, as of course they always are in the real world, or at least in Lineland, and additionally assuming that the library was in the middle.

    This teacher told us at the last TAT meeting that in her opinion, DS was having trouble with word problems, which shocked us. Now I know what she must have meant. sick She also mentioned that he's argued with her on many occasions about being right. I'm proud of him for being strong enough to stick up for himself, and proud/heartsick that he never mentioned this sort of thing to us. With his brand of perfectionism, every unjustified red mark must be like a slap in the face.
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    #117667 - 12/06/11 03:24 PM Re: The ultimate brag thread [Re: Iucounu]
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    Originally Posted By: Iucounu

    I just found out from my wife that the homework sheet came home with the teacher's red mark and comments that it was indeed possible, adding the two numbers together for a "solution" based on the assumption that the house, library, and store were all in a straight line, as of course they always are in the real world, or at least in Lineland, and additionally assuming that the library was in the middle.



    Two vectors without direction.

    Derive the magnitude of the third vector if the sum of the vectors is zero.

    Even in a One-D world, there are two possibilities.

    In a two-D world, the solution is an infinite set.

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    This teacher told us at the last TAT meeting that in her opinion, DS was having trouble with word problems, which shocked us. Now I know what she must have meant. sick She also mentioned that he's argued with her on many occasions about being right. I'm proud of him for being strong enough to stick up for himself, and proud/heartsick that he never mentioned this sort of thing to us. With his brand of perfectionism, every unjustified red mark must be like a slap in the face.


    I'd fire the teacher for making assumptions and retain your son for asking questions. Good for him.




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    #117670 - 12/06/11 03:48 PM Re: The ultimate brag thread [Re: CFK]
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    DD5 drew a picture of the U.S. Capitol Building on the sidewalk with chalk yesterday :-) We live in South Florida; she's never been north of Georgia.


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    #117850 - 12/08/11 09:52 PM Re: The ultimate brag thread [Re: CFK]
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    My DS has been writing and illustrating books with a couple of friends at school. I was thrilled with this already, but today he told me that after he and his friends started producing these books, the other kids in the class liked the idea and began to follow suit. Now the teacher has set up a little library in the classroom of all their books.

    This made me happy for so many reasons. Despite the fact that he is a very outgoing and fun kid, I have worried about his friendship making because of his SPD (he tends to invade personal space, touch people too often and too hard) so to see him spontaneously working together with a group of friends on a project like this warms my heart. And to see him playing a leadership role in the class and inspiring other kids to be creative too, well that is just fantastic!

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    #117851 - 12/08/11 09:55 PM Re: The ultimate brag thread [Re: CFK]
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    Oh for heaven's sakes, lucounu, that is just ridiculous! Sounds like the teacher is the one with the difficulty with word problems. I hope he recognizes that he is right and doesn't take her criticism to heart.

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    #117854 - 12/08/11 11:45 PM Re: The ultimate brag thread [Re: Iucounu]
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    Originally Posted By: Iucounu
    There's no "Great Big Commiseration Thread" or "Courage in the Face of Grim Adversity Thread"

    Start it, and they will come! But yes, well done him, and I'm sorry he had to deal with the teacher not understanding. Did he put a copy of his diagram in his answer, or simply write that there wasn't enough information? If the latter, this is a teachable moment that when you want to convince someone of something they aren't likely to want to believe, you have to give more detailed arguments than when they will want what you say to be true! (This will stand him in good stead later :-)
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    #117855 - 12/09/11 01:02 AM Re: The ultimate brag thread [Re: CFK]
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    Thanks, people. Yep, the diagram was on the answer sheet.

    I wound up submitting scans of three worksheets, including that one, to the TAT team, at the risk of angering his teacher, to show why the current system isn't working. Anyone can make mistakes, but I really think he deserves to be taught math by a person (and preferably one who has somewhat of a feel for math), instead of being parked in front of a computer or just left to do worksheets. No matter who was administering these worksheets, the communication is just too restricted to constitute teaching, nor is he being taught to a curriculum or at the right level.
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    #117856 - 12/09/11 01:03 AM Re: The ultimate brag thread [Re: LNEsMom]
    Iucounu Offline
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    Originally Posted By: LNEsMom
    My DS has been writing and illustrating books with a couple of friends at school. I was thrilled with this already, but today he told me that after he and his friends started producing these books, the other kids in the class liked the idea and began to follow suit. Now the teacher has set up a little library in the classroom of all their books.

    Awesome story!
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    #117878 - 12/09/11 09:21 AM Re: The ultimate brag thread [Re: CFK]
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    Registered: 08/24/10
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    Iucounu, while I understand your frustration, we have had many incidents like this, and I think it's important to encourage kids to look for "the answer the teacher wants." Yes, your son is right, and I would tell him that he is right, but I also would have him write the answer the teacher wants. If you wanted to, he could then write in the margin why the question is confusing. There is so much danger of overthinking and then responding "wrong" to poorly written questions with these kids. It's a life skill to know what is actually being asked and at what level--albeit a depressing one. Now, I would agree that his response IS evidence of a child who is thinking at a higher level and who needs more challenge.

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    #117880 - 12/09/11 09:24 AM Re: The ultimate brag thread [Re: CFK]
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    As for the brags, wow, my DD is turning into an incredible writer. However, she is also an insanely ambitious one. She turns a 1-paragraph assignment into a two-page dissertation, and it takes her two hours. Oy.

    And DS3 beat me at chess. For real. Now, I suck at chess, for a relatively intelligent adult. BUT. He beat me. The next day, he almost beat me--I was on my toes the whole time.

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