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    #113597 - 10/12/11 10:26 AM Re: 2nd/3rd Grade 2011-2012 [Re: JJsMom]
    st pauli girl Offline
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    We have conferences next week, so maybe we'll learn more. From the stuff that comes home, it seems like DS7's class is doing a lot of interesting, challenging, and fun stuff, but DS still asks why he has to go to school. He's not a fan. frown But we as parents are happy with the school. Anybody have any ideas about discovering if DS's complaints about not liking school are just puffery? I know he'd prefer to stay home every day, but other than that I can't figure out if he's just trying to mess with me or if something's not quite right. (As background, he has never liked school. He no longer complains that it's boring, but he still doesn't like to go.)

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    #113606 - 10/12/11 11:50 AM Re: 2nd/3rd Grade 2011-2012 [Re: JJsMom]
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    Starting today, ds8 (3rd grade) will be going to his 4th grade math class for their "lit circle". I guess they all read the same book and discuss. His 3rd grade teacher told me about it yesterday (her little girl comes to my daycare, so I get to see her everyday). This will be during 3rd grade math, so he won't miss out on anything - hope it all goes well smile

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    #113609 - 10/12/11 11:56 AM Re: 2nd/3rd Grade 2011-2012 [Re: JJsMom]
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    I never liked to go either. DS10 didn't want to go at 6 and doesn't want to go at 10. Things are better than they were but ew still have the conversation about once a week. He wants to be a mathematician though and he knows he is probably in school for the long haul.

    If he says he doesn't like to go it could be social, he may not like the teacher, etc. DS is so much happier now that he's got it going on socially and has found kids that are not just fun and nice but are academic peers to him. That was a BIG deal. Have you probed into those areas? Sometimes it's not the academics. DS doesn't like the long day and the home work. If we could do 3 days on, 3 days off, shorter days and no homework then he'd be thrilled! lol

    If it's not making his life miserable and he is going to school without making your life miserable I wouldn't worry too much. I would gently probe to see what's going on. Have a meeting with the teacher to find out what he does at free times, who he eats lunch with, are they making them square dance in PE? etc...

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    #113613 - 10/12/11 12:05 PM Re: 2nd/3rd Grade 2011-2012 [Re: AntsyPants]
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    Thanks Antsy-Pants. DS complains much less now that he's at a school for HG kids, and his classmates are a great group. He has a couple kids he likes to play with at recess, and he does like going to the afterschool classes (chess/science). This year's teacher is tougher than last year's, but DS complained about school last year too- and that was the most fun teacher imaginable.

    If asked, he says school is a waste of his time (translated to "I would rather be playing Minecraft"), and that he'd like to skip more grades if possible. I think it's just the way it will be for him. He has hardly any homework beyond reading 30 minutes a day and studying his spelling (which are extremely hard words commonly misspelled by adults - first time DS has had to study anything!)

    I would also like to have 3 days on, 3 days off, and shorter days for my work! smile

    Thanks for letting me vent, anyway.

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    #113819 - 10/14/11 03:52 PM Re: 2nd/3rd Grade 2011-2012 [Re: JJsMom]
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    If DS had his way it would be Minecraft 24/7!

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    #113820 - 10/14/11 04:10 PM Re: 2nd/3rd Grade 2011-2012 [Re: JJsMom]
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    Well, my DS5's poison/crack of choice is Angry Birds, which I restricted pretty heavily. Until I had to keep 3 kids 7 and under busy on a 16 hours transcontinental trip. His limit on the way out was 3 hours. He barely played 2 hours on the way back. And there has been a bit less whining about the game since then.

    So... Maybe not? wink

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    #115287 - 11/01/11 06:35 PM Re: 2nd/3rd Grade 2011-2012 [Re: JJsMom]
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    We had conferences this evening for ds8 - first time with letter grades, so kind of cool. His 4th grade math teacher popped in - says ds is grouped with the highest of his 4th grade kids, and doing great. They do stuff in 3 week rotations - he says ds is challenged when they start, but by the beginning of the 2nd week has it mastered. He's extremely well behaved, no problems whatsoever.
    His 3rd grade teacher was also full of praise - she is doing her best to challenge him. His only behavior problem is "blurting" - which has been his only problem in all grades so far. We talked about ds maybe learning Latin/Greek, and is open to me sending a book in with him if I can find something suitable. Any ideas ?

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    #115738 - 11/07/11 07:15 PM Re: 2nd/3rd Grade 2011-2012 [Re: JJsMom]
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    Wish I had ideas for you st. pauli girl about the school thing with your DS. Working in schools though I see a lot of kids that have fun all day and enjoy themselves and then their parents tell us that the kids give them a hard time about going and don't want to come. It's a little confusing sometimes. Maybe the day just seems too long and he is just in that mindset of saying he doesn't like school. Lots of kids say it. Our DS7 is definitely in the minority as he has never complained about school, never said he doesn't want to go, and never said it is boring. He actually rarely says anything is boring which is odd to me....but he occasionally will tactfully say things like "I think that's a little too easy for me." But hearing about your DS's school, it sounds awesome! sounds like you have found the right school...but it's still a school. : ) I hope for your sake he gets tired of the complaining because that has to be hard for you when you know it's a good school and think things are going well. Good luck! How did conferences go?? Mine isn't until next week! My daughters is this Wednesday for pre-k though.

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    #115740 - 11/07/11 07:47 PM Re: 2nd/3rd Grade 2011-2012 [Re: JJsMom]
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    Minor update: DS is essentially receiving no math instruction at all for the first half of the year. :| A follow-up meeting is scheduled for December 1st. In the meantime the school is getting input from the middle school math department head (I don't know why, because I don't think he's ready for middle school math, i.e. sixth grade here) and school district math consultant, and I'm to investigate several online math programs with DS6 to hopefully pick one.

    The new assistant principal's original plan at the last meeting was to have DS learn the same concepts as the rest of his second-grade class, but in more depth-- yes, (re)learning about adding single- and double-digit numbers but in more depth, perhaps either doing the equivalent of a book report on the subject, or creating problems for the rest of the class. The assistant principal said that DS6 needs to stay at the same level as his grade peers (too late by at least a couple of years) because otherwise, there'd be a problem when he needs more than fifth grade math, but the school can't provide it. I shot the idea down repeatedly in the meeting; I finally asked whether with that investigatory approach and no other instruction DS6 would be expected to show increased math understanding at the end of the year via higher scores on the MAP test (the local assessment tool of choice), stay where he was, or perhaps backslide a bit.

    I'm not happy. Doing in-class work alone on the computer isn't the same as being taught by a good math teacher, and will serve to alienate him at least as much as another skip or a math pull-out would. I have half a mind to just tell my son to do what he wants during math time at school, and teach him after school. This year was supposed to cure the need for that, though. I really can't believe that the solution so far has been to continue to plan to make plans, while he spends a half year learning no math at school.
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    #115744 - 11/07/11 08:06 PM Re: 2nd/3rd Grade 2011-2012 [Re: JJsMom]
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    I'm sorry to hear about the math, locounu. It sounds like a meeting we had with our DS's local school before we transferred him to the HG school. Except they were telling us that he wasn't ready for higher math because his writing wasn't good enough. Ugh. We did finally get that school to agree to let DS test out of the units and then go to the GT teacher for new material, but we didn't stick around long enough to see if it would work. That must be so frustrating for you and your DS. frown When our DS was in kindy and not getting enough, we did join EPGY and DS did that at home after school, which worked OK. If you're willing and able to teach your DS, it might not be a bad plan versus getting absolutely nothing new at school.

    shellymos, thanks for the support! I guess a lot does have to do with personality and individual kids. Lately I've been getting more of "I wish I never went to this school. If I had to take a test again to get in, I would purposely get all the answers wrong so I wouldn't qualify." We know it's a great fit though, and he's doing great. And the conference went well. DS is doing great academically, and the teacher said she has seen no issues with him being a grade skipper (except that it might take more practice to get up to some of the other kids in writing). I am really happy with DS's school. I hope your conferences go well too.

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