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    #109993 - 08/22/11 03:06 PM Re: Does this offend? [Re: DAD22]
    islandofapples Offline
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    Registered: 07/20/11
    Posts: 332
    Originally Posted By: DAD22
    Originally Posted By: DeeDee
    To me the quotation implies that the speaker of the quotation has assumed the right to judge whether other people have really gifted kids, or are putting tap shoes on elephants. In my reading, it doesn't say "I'm not hothousing"-- it says "stop hothousing YOUR kid, because you're being ridiculous, you'll never make them gifted."

    Which may or may not be true. But in my view, judging other people's parenting is pretty much fraught with peril, and the condescension of the quotation is perhaps unnecessarily provocative.

    DeeDee


    I think the reader would have to view the statement through the polarized lens of their own insecurities to come to the conclusion that they had been judged with disapproval.


    Yeah, that.

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    #109994 - 08/22/11 03:13 PM Re: Does this offend? [Re: Ametrine]
    Ametrine Offline
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    Registered: 05/27/11
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    Very interesting comments.

    I changed the color of the yellow. It's a superficial change that obviously in no way changes the content of the signature line, but for now, take it as it is.

    I'm still ruminating on the comment about the search engines dropping parents off at this site. That is really a concern to me.

    I don't want to embarrass Davidson in any way.

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    #109995 - 08/22/11 03:21 PM Re: Does this offend? [Re: Ametrine]
    annette Offline
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    Registered: 01/20/11
    Posts: 253
    If an elephant wants to dance, why not? Go Elephant!

    fun picture book:
    "Gerald the giraffe doesn't really have delusions of grandeur. He just wants to dance. But his knees are crooked and his legs are thin, and all the other animals mock him when he approaches the dance floor at the annual Jungle Dance. "Hey, look at clumsy Gerald," they sneer. "Oh, Gerald, you're so weird." Poor Gerald slinks away as the chimps cha-cha, rhinos rock 'n' roll, and warthogs waltz. But an encouraging word from an unlikely source shows this glum giraffe that those who are different "just need a different song," and soon he is prancing and sashaying and boogying to moon music (with a cricket accompanist)."

    http://www.amazon.com/Giraffes-Cant-Dance-Giles-Andreae/dp/0439287197








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    #110003 - 08/22/11 04:14 PM Re: Does this offend? [Re: Iucounu]
    Ametrine Offline
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    Originally Posted By: Iucounu
    It seems a bit weightist or pachydermist, but wotthehey. You can't please everyone. A likely interpretation (by someone who's not overly touchy) is that you are put out when someone suggests that your child's abilities are solely the results of training-- as if hothousing could create an ultrabright! Viscosity's low on this one.

    I agree with Val. The standard of acceptable speech here is not whether at least one out of a range of possible interpretations could theoretically offend someone, is it? Your signature's fine.

    _____
    Putting a sleight-of-hand artist in a cemetery doesn't make him a necromancer.


    Alright, Iucounu! Your "new siggy" is really too much. As the daugher of an undertaker, I'm offended.
    *wink*


    Edited by Ametrine (08/22/11 04:16 PM)

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    #110004 - 08/22/11 04:20 PM Re: Does this offend? [Re: Ametrine]
    Val Offline
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    Registered: 09/01/07
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    Originally Posted By: Ametrine
    I don't want to embarrass Davidson in any way.


    Well, remember that this forum has two moderators (I think that Julie is new? Hi Julie!). If you had written something that would make the DI look bad, you'd probably have heard about it from one of them by now.

    As I mentioned on the Forum Guidelines thread, I think that Mark has done a great job of moderating this forum, and my feeling is that we should leave these decisions to him. I personally don't like the idea of having self-appointed guardians telling the rest of what we can and can't say (YMMV).

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    #110006 - 08/22/11 04:33 PM Re: Does this offend? [Re: JonLaw]
    Kate Offline
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    Registered: 02/24/10
    Posts: 462
    Loc: Florida
    Originally Posted By: JonLaw

    I also want to agree with everyone who finds the yellow text somewhat offensive. Not because of it's content...but because it's so darn yellow.


    Color-ism!!! I love yellow smile

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    #110041 - 08/23/11 06:28 AM Re: Does this offend? [Re: Ametrine]
    ultramarina Offline
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    Uh, but seriously--the grammar is still wrong. The subject is "tap shoes." You wouldn't say "These tap shoes doesn't make me a dancer," right?

    (Gee, I wonder where my daughter gets her compulsive desire to correct people.)

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    #110057 - 08/23/11 10:02 AM Re: Does this offend? [Re: ultramarina]
    Ametrine Offline
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    Originally Posted By: ultramarina
    Uh, but seriously--the grammar is still wrong. The subject is "tap shoes." You wouldn't say "These tap shoes doesn't make me a dancer," right?

    (Gee, I wonder where my daughter gets her compulsive desire to correct people.)


    How's this?

    I appreciate the grammar help. smile

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    #110060 - 08/23/11 10:48 AM Re: Does this offend? [Re: Kate]
    JonLaw Offline
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    Registered: 07/29/11
    Posts: 2007
    Loc: The Sub-Tropics
    Originally Posted By: Kate
    Originally Posted By: JonLaw

    I also want to agree with everyone who finds the yellow text somewhat offensive. Not because of it's content...but because it's so darn yellow.


    Color-ism!!! I love yellow smile


    The problem is with my laptop at work. The yellow hurts my eyes on it, even in it's new orangish form.

    When I'm at home, it's fine. I noticed that.

    So, the problem is with this Dell Laptop, not the color itself.

    My bad.

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    #110063 - 08/23/11 01:08 PM Re: Does this offend? [Re: Ametrine]
    Pru Offline
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    Registered: 08/27/10
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    The thing is, a child of average build and coordination can be trained to become a great dancer. I don't expect that children with greater potential as dancers suddenly, at six months old, just teach themselves the Charleston as if it were an innate pattern in their superior dancer minds. So I think the analogy is weak.

    I can't think of a better way to say it. Maybe something like, "You can't teach a sparrow to soar by telling it to flap its wings harder." But then that sounds offensive.

    Speaking of offensive, are there any gifted child jokes floating around, like How many gifted children does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

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