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    Originally Posted by Iucounu
    . I don't fully get the last sentence, or the reference to that TV trope.�
    Originally Posted by La Texican
    Alternatively some parents deal with their kids �(Getting Crap Past the radar), which gets the others to think the parents to look for problems where there aren't any.


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    Here's an example of "getting crap past the radar". �I posted in another thread yesterday that Wyatt's been messing around with his letters covertly. �He convinced my grandmother he was having a hard time telling �b, p, q, d apart. �I said, what?! �He's known his letters for over a year! �She said, well those are hard. �Then he started drawing u&n interchanged. �Then yesterday he did this http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad296/Hablame_today/bc7fc25d.jpg I laughed at him because he thought I didn't know what he was doing and when he couldn't immediately write the 2 backwards he wrote it forwards and made a baby voice and tried to convince me, 'is this how you draw a 2.' ? �And then today He figured out this morning 2 is a backwards s, he wrote on another paper in place of an s and said '2' outloud. �But look at this, he made a wiggle on the s in bats, then ran with in making a 3 instead of the s in houses.
    http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad296/Hablame_today/064ce8f2.jpg

    I told the hubby what he did and showed pictures, he laughed and said, "he's messing with your head.". And of course I think it's funny and great and he's just playing with shapes and patterns (which is, ironically, age appropriate. �Just not with letters), and milking the baby act for great-grandma.

    I've seen similar stories and I could see how it would make advocacy, well, less funny than this story. �So, it's a real thing I'm thinking of. �There's probably a better word. �"out of sync priorities". �Well, there's probably a real word for it. �So I was talking about this trait when it's inconvenient and I must have been thinking of a recent thread where the teacher's not seeing what the parent's seeing. �I think I was thinking of the girls hiding their talents thread where the teacher didn't think they were bored but the parents did.


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    And I saw your first entry, very nice! Can't wait to see other people's contributions and I will try to come up with a nice page or two to offer.


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    Just a quick update. I have figured out how to use templates and extensions a bit, to the extent I'm starting to dump stub pages in with reusable cross-cutting slices of content, mostly links at this point. Here's a sample page:
    http://www.giftedwiki.org/index.php?title=Chess

    I am still thinking through how the rating system for resources will be structured, how best to structure the pages for geographic areas, and a few other ideas.


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    smile Looking great!

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    Thanks a lot! I've cleaned up things a bit, and have a pretty good system for including links now. I'm currently working on these main items:

    1) Categorization scheme for local resources (sorry for the delay, Giftodd)
    2) Rating system for resources
    3) Documentation on how to add new pages
    4) Finishing adding all stub pages (the skeleton of the information) I can identify as useful

    I found a few pre-existing rating and polling extensions for Wikimedia, but I haven't finished evaluating them and checking them for weaknesses. I might write my own too.

    I wanted to knock out a simple scheme for including links to external resources because I wanted even stub pages to add a little bit of value initially to the average reader. I took the time to scope out which gifted forums are still at least nominally alive and kicking. I found that of the gifted-oriented sites that have forums, some are much more current on the article/non-forum content side, and others have more useful content in the forums. There are a lot of dead sites out there, unfortunately.

    Another reason I've done the links that way is that I figure it might actually lead to more content being dumped into the wiki. I hope the links are helpful in searching for more content, and I've actually used them that way a couple of times already.

    Links to a few pages so you can see what the latest look and feel and link changes look like. The content is extremely bare-bones so far, and I'm aware of many weaknesses (e.g. the redundance of the links on some giftedness-related pages), but I welcome any feedback.
    chess Ruf's LOG DYS


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    I could use some thoughts on what sorts of info to include in the wiki that would be geographically linked, and how it should be structured. Here are some thoughts I've had:

    There might be a geographic place page for a large area like the US or the Northeast US, territory in another country, etc. as well as more specific ones going down as many levels as helpful.

    For each place page, it would be helpful to put-- what? Here are some initial ideas:
    * Testers
    * Other professional specialists (such as 2E-related therapists?)
    * Gifted schools
    * Other gifted programs
    * Laws and regulations
    * Interest groups

    I figure each thing could have its own page. For some local support or other interest groups, their pages could even be a way to have a free web presence if they like, except that I think a lot of them probably already have their own Yahoo groups which serve that purpose.

    ETA: Suggestions can be collecteed here.


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    Here's a regular wiki link to "learning styles"
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_styles
    I don't know what you want to do about things that already have a wiki page.


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    Right now I'm thinking of an entry for a "adequate yearly progress"
    http://vagifted.org/VAG_Winter08Vol29No2.pdf
    Plus Present level of education
    http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/present_levels.htm
    Gifted or hard-working if you're ahead of the class you should still be going to school to Learn a year's worth of education.

    But I don't really know anything about it. It just sounds good.
    Maybe with the common core standards:
    http://www.corestandards.org/

    It has something to do with the MAP test. It's achievement based public education with regular placement tests. Is this true?


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    I would like to know how schools could monitor effort and progress, which is just as important as a grade. How do you motivate students to do their best and encourage good excutive functioning. How does a gifted school accomidate the PG kid?

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