I definitely don't need to handicap myself with the 8yo (she is a fast processor for sure). DS4--well, I haven't played him in a while so now I don't know anymore!

The card game Sleeping Queens has been HUGE at our house lately. DS can't do the arithemetic element too well, but that doesn't make much difference. I don't find the game a thrill, exactly, but it's tolerable. I have seen other kids love it, so it isn't just my two. I don't remember if I mentioned the card game Ruckus upthread--that one really IS fun, and playable by nonreaders.